Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!paganini.bofh.team!not-for-mail From: The Starmaker Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh Subject: Re: Russians are masochists, according to MSM. Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2023 14:04:14 -0700 Organization: To protect and to server Message-ID: <649B4ECE.7BE0@ix.netcom.com> References: <53c1f177-639c-4d2b-aad3-382094b2def3n@googlegroups.com> <6483E56D.2762@ix.netcom.com> <648411CC.3AF3@ix.netcom.com> <64856CF3.1D11@ix.netcom.com> <6488C3DD.CC2@ix.netcom.com> <64895B60.479F@ix.netcom.com> <648B7B32.536@ix.netcom.com> <648C0201.35B3@ix.netcom.com> <648C02F3.2CDD@ix.netcom.com> <6496A627.385C@ix.netcom.com> <64972B96.B7D@ix.netcom.com> <6497FFE7.2B57@ix.netcom.com> <6499D962.360A@ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: paganini.bofh.team; logging-data="3380436"; posting-host="nLYg9UBeoMWa070gP9wQcw.user.paganini.bofh.team"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@bofh.team"; posting-account="9dIQLXBM7WM9KzA+yjdR4A"; Cancel-Lock: sha256:xQuobnJ6pLbbGGTWNHWkeBRXJ86Tzer7RScbGwStMCI= X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.9.3 X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 230627-6, 06/27/2023), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Xref: csiph.com sci.physics.relativity:613883 sci.physics:876693 alt.fan.rush-limbaugh:2671780 My advise to this Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...stay aways from ...windows. The Starmaker wrote: > > if you people know anything about the mafia... > you know Putin needs to rub out dat wagner guy, otherwise... > > EVERYBODY WILL WANT TO KNOCK OFF PUTIN! > > One of them has to die...soon. > > Which one is it going to be???? > > (the wagner guy already made his move and now has the popular vote) > > dis is not a game of chess.. > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > I heard the FBI needs your help.. > > > > they are looking for this guy...anybody seen him around? > > > > https://www.fbi.gov/@@dvpdffiles/5/3/53426a12e62644ca8fe47a23da95f064/normal/dump_1.gif > > > > looks a liitle familiar.. > > > > there is a reward out for him..$250,000.02 > > > > https://www.fbi.gov/@@dvpdffiles/5/3/53426a12e62644ca8fe47a23da95f064/normal/dump_1.gif > > > > i tink i know where dis guy lives.. > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > Of course Putin is a chicken...he's got a lot more to lose than dat > > > purse snatcher Wagner. > > > > > > One of those two has to...die. > > > > > > Which one are you rooting for? da gangster or da gangster? > > > > > > Why doesn't da Big Guy take them both out? > > > > > > well, we'll deal with wat ever gangster survies.... > > > > > > Biden gots his own Crime Family to look after. > > > > > > Trump has to go after all the Crime Families in Washington! > > > > > > (luckly Trump has Rudy Giuliani to consult him...Rudy is an expert on > > > Crime Families!) > > > > > > It's Kill or be Killed. > > > > > > You wanna make an omelete you gotta break some eggs. > > > > > > As far back as I can remember, I always wanted to be a gangster. ... > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) is trying to kill Putin, and > > > > Putin is trying to kill This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin). > > > > > > > > Who is going to win? The Gambino Family or the Bonano Family? > > > > > > > > Somebody is going to get hit on 46th Street... > > > > > > > > Mob Wars. > > > > > > > > Who gets to own the gas station on Putin Avenue? > > > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Looks to me.. > > > > > This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect > > > > > President for Russia...he's strickly criminal. And > > > > > > > > > > looks to me > > > > > he is going to vote himself in... > > > > > and knock off Putin. > > > > > > > > > > Mob style. > > > > > > > > > > It's a Mafia state, why not? > > > > > > > > > > you gotta do it wit style. > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 23:36:35 -0700, The Starmaker > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...dat mad russian > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > https://www.wsj.com/video/series/shadow-men/shadow-men-inside-wagner-russias-secret-war-company/29735C37-0B4E-4E70-8E8C-C46FB711370C > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > Believe it or not, he will become the next President of Russia! > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Now, dis Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President of Russia. He's Putin's kind of guy... > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Here is a just a little history about (Yevgeny Prigozhin) > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > (Yevgeny Prigozhin) made his first mark on the public record as a criminal. > > > > > >> > > In 1979, aged 18, Prigozhin was given a two-year suspended sentence for theft. > > > > > >> > > While still on probation, he committed a series of burglaries. > > > > > >> > > There wasn’t much worth stealing in Soviet-era Leningrad. > > > > > >> > > In February 1980, Prigozhin and an accomplice broke into an apartment and stole a vase, a napkin holder and six wine glasses. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Minor infractions led to more brutal ones. One evening Prigozhin and his cronies went out celebrating > > > > > >> > > the theft of 250 roubles from a man they had lured down a dark alley. Prigozhin noticed a young woman in > > > > > >> > > a “beautiful” coat, according to testimony given by one member of the gang. They followed the woman into > > > > > >> > > the street and one of them asked her for a cigarette. As she opened her handbag, Prigozhin grabbed her from behind > > > > > >> > > by the neck and began to strangle her. She tried to scream but he gripped her harder. She blacked out and slumped to the ground. > > > > > >> > > One of the muggers took her boots; Prigozhin ripped off her gold earrings. A court jailed him for 13 years. He had just turned 20. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > "stole a vase"???? wat is he a faguet? > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President for Russia...he's strickly criminal. > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > He's Putin's kind of guy... > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Do you know what "Putin's kind of guy..." means? Like a John Gotti > > > > > >> underboss. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Most of yous don't understand Putin and Russia. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Russia in fact is a Mafia State. A country run by The Mafia. It's a > > > > > >> Mafia country. Run by the Mafia. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> If you need a little more understanding... > > > > > >> > > > > > >> By Garry Kasparov > > > > > >> When Vladimir Putin took power in Russia in 2000, the burning question > > > > > >> was: "Who is Putin?" It has now changed to: "What is the nature of > > > > > >> Putin's Russia?" This regime has been remarkably consistent in its > > > > > >> behavior, yet foreign leaders and the Western press still act surprised > > > > > >> at Mr. Putin's total disregard for their opinions. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Again and again we hear cries of: "Doesn't Putin know how bad this > > > > > >> looks?" When another prominent Russian journalist is murdered, when a > > > > > >> businessman not friendly to the Kremlin is jailed, when a foreign > > > > > >> company is pushed out of its Russian investment, when pro-democracy > > > > > >> marchers are beaten by police, when gas and oil supplies are used as > > > > > >> weapons, or when Russian weapons and missile technology are sold to > > > > > >> terrorist sponsor states like Iran and Syria, what needs to be asked is > > > > > >> what sort of government would continue such behavior. This Kremlin > > > > > >> regime operates within a value system entirely different from that of > > > > > >> the Western nations struggling to understand what is happening behind > > > > > >> the medieval red walls. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Mr. Putin's government is unique in history. This Kremlin is part > > > > > >> oligarchy, with a small, tightly connected gang of wealthy rulers. It is > > > > > >> partly a feudal system, broken down into semi-autonomous fiefdoms in > > > > > >> which payments are collected from the serfs, who have no rights. Over > > > > > >> this there is a democratic coat of paint, just thick enough to gain > > > > > >> entry into the G-8 and keep the oligarchy's money safe in Western banks. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> But if you really wish to understand the Putin regime in depth, I can > > > > > >> recommend some reading. No Karl Marx or Adam Smith. Nothing by > > > > > >> Montesquieu or Machiavelli, although the author you are looking for is > > > > > >> of Italian descent. But skip Mussolini's "The Doctrine of Fascism," for > > > > > >> now, and the entire political science section. Instead, go directly to > > > > > >> the fiction department and take home everything you can find by Mario > > > > > >> Puzo. If you are in a real hurry to become an expert on the Russian > > > > > >> government, you may prefer the DVD section, where you can find Mr. > > > > > >> Puzo's works on film. "The Godfather" trilogy is a good place to start, > > > > > >> but do not leave out "The Last Don," "Omerta" and "The Sicilian." > > > > > >> > > > > > >> The web of betrayals, the secrecy, the blurred lines between what is > > > > > >> business, what is government, and what is criminal -- it's all there in > > > > > >> Mr. Puzo's books. A historian looks at the Kremlin today and sees > > > > > >> elements of Mussolini's "corporate state," Latin American juntas and > > > > > >> Mexico's pseudo-democratic PRI machine. A Puzo fan sees the Putin > > > > > >> government more accurately: the strict hierarchy, the extortion, the > > > > > >> intimidation, the code of secrecy and, above all, the mandate to keep > > > > > >> the revenue flowing. In other words, a mafia. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> If a member of the inner circle goes against the Capo, his life is > > > > > >> forfeit. Once Russia's richest man, Mikhail Khodorkovsky wanted to go > > > > > >> straight and run his Yukos oil company as a legitimate corporation and > > > > > >> not as another cog in Mr. Putin's KGB, Inc. He quickly found himself in > > > > > >> a Siberian prison, his company dismantled and looted, and its pieces > > > > > >> absorbed by the state mafia apparatus of Rosneft and Gazprom. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> The Yukos case has become a model. Private companies are absorbed into > > > > > >> the state while at the same time the assets of the state companies move > > > > > >> into private accounts. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Alexander Litvinenko was a KGB agent who broke the loyalty code by > > > > > >> fleeing to Britain. Worse, he violated the law of omertà by going > > > > > >> to the press and even publishing books about the dirty deeds of Mr. > > > > > >> Putin and his foot soldiers. Instead of being taken fishing in the > > > > > >> old-fashioned Godfather style, he was killed in London in the first > > > > > >> recorded case of nuclear terrorism. Now the Kremlin is refusing to hand > > > > > >> over the main suspect in the murder. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Mr. Putin can't understand Britain doing potential harm to its business > > > > > >> interests over one human life. That's an alien concept. In his world, > > > > > >> everything is negotiable. Morals and principles are just chips on the > > > > > >> table in the Kremlin's game. There is no mere misunderstanding in the > > > > > >> Litvinenko case; there are two different languages being spoken. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> In the civilized world, certain things are sacrosanct. Human life is not > > > > > >> traded at the same table where business and diplomacy are discussed. But > > > > > >> for Mr. Putin, it's a true no-limits game. Kosovo, the missile shield, > > > > > >> pipeline deals, the Iranian nuclear program and democratic rights are > > > > > >> all just cards to be played. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Now, do you know who Mikhail Khodorkovsky is? He was head of the Jewish Mafia in Russia. > > > > > > > > > > > >When Putin got rid of Mikhail Khodorkovsky...all the other top Jewish Mafia guys ran to Israel. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> -- > > > > > >> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > > > > > >> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, > > > > > >> and challenge > > > > > >> the unchallengeable. > > > > > -- > > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > > > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge > > > > > the unchallengeable. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, > > > > and challenge > > > > the unchallengeable. > > > > > > -- > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, > > > and challenge > > > the unchallengeable. > > > > -- > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge > > the unchallengeable. > > -- > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, > and challenge > the unchallengeable. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.