Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!feeder.usenetexpress.com!feeder-in1.iad1.usenetexpress.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!buffer1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!buffer2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2018 11:58:46 -0600 Message-ID: <5BE5CB40.661F@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2018 10:00:32 -0800 From: The Starmaker Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: what is the Sun? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 181109-4, 11/09/2018), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Lines: 37 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 108.219.229.47 X-Trace: sv3-WGOyPwdyjcdopUYtVqIo7LY7brExJOWysCpasuXBJ7VrmKbvrBK21zCI2KgQw6AiYJunInuunDVMalH!OaBeyvUbAeCSBsgACL3WeVqeOL2fd0KvSSIUOJ1DVLWXxX/B5u3x/q5a4yk43csxAf2B5kq1WZLK!7EkDQz7hTsA= X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 2433 Xref: csiph.com sci.physics.relativity:476652 Tom Roberts wrote: > > On 11/8/18 11:46 AM, alsor@interia.pl wrote: > > [...] > > What's the point of just making stuff up and pretending it is true? > > And what's the point of ignoring very basic physics? -- the sun is > enormously more dense at the center than average, so "calculating" > averages from made-up numbers is USELESS. > > Moreover, we can MEASURE the (surface) composition of the sun from its > spectrum. and it is NOT 100% hydrogen as you fantasize. As other > elements are denser than hydrogen, they are most likely present at > higher concentrations in the interior than at the surface [#]. Needless > to say this makes your "calculation" COMPLETELY WRONG. > > [#] But the high temperature of the sun implies considerable > mixing, so a model is needed. > > If the sun were pure hydrogen, as you fantasize, how do you suppose it > generates the enormous energy that it radiates? > > Tom Roberts I don't know the contents of the sun...but the sun "generates" the 'enormous energy that it radiates' thru pipelines. It gets it's energy thru pipelines from other suns. Each star is connected to another star where energy flows through. We get our energy from our sun...