Path: csiph.com!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: The Starmaker Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: sci.physics.relativity Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2018 12:07:31 -0700 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 104 Message-ID: <5B3E6C73.74F@ix.netcom.com> References: <5B3150BE.2A5D@ix.netcom.com> <02993238-e90e-ab67-d1d1-00e511ba6250@PointedEars.de> <3caf1068-8411-47e5-bb1d-18a669d021fa@googlegroups.com> <6790ebac-fc05-4bb0-b9ec-89d51cfe403e@googlegroups.com> <29b47fcf-f2c7-4437-9460-66b6285ce173@googlegroups.com> <5B37DEBD.B95@ix.netcom.com> <2f5a6585-620d-46b4-9fc2-18618018c67b@googlegroups.com> <5B3B1D87.33A6@ix.netcom.com> <5B3BE0FB.48BA@ix.netcom.com> <5B3BEEAF.1987@ix.netcom.com> <5B3D6BE1.3744@ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com NNTP-Posting-Host: X9ItFNC7Zcz4l6MobL/YRA.user.gioia.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.3 X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 180705-2, 07/05/2018), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) Xref: csiph.com sci.physics.relativity:463539 The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > JanPB wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, June 30, 2018 at 12:48:36 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > JanPB wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, June 28, 2018 at 4:55:35 PM UTC-7, kenseto wrote: > > > > > > > > On Thursday, June 28, 2018 at 3:36:21 PM UTC-4, JanPB wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, June 28, 2018 at 11:36:15 AM UTC-7, kenseto wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, June 28, 2018 at 10:09:22 AM UTC-4, tjrob137 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On 6/27/18 8:22 AM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > SolomonW wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> Newton and Newtonian physics are not quite the same thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First of all, that is nonsense. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, it is true, fundamentally. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Newton thought that space and time are "absolute". Today, we know that > > > > > > > > > > > absolute space and time are irrelevant, because all of the Newtonian > > > > > > > > > > > laws of physics are valid in any inertial frame (not just a single > > > > > > > > > > > "absolute" frame). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So for the past century (at least), Newton's "absolute space and time" > > > > > > > > > > > have had no effect on any modeling using Newtonian physics. IOW: they > > > > > > > > > > > are just words with no impact. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That’s not truth. Absolute time is use to synch the GPS clock with the ground clock by redefining the GPS second to have 4,4647 more periods of Cs 133 radiation than the ground clock second. [etc. etc.] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Absolute time is not used anywhere in physics today. You probably meant > > > > > > > > > some kind of "time by convention". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Assertion is not a valid argument. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regardless, I _assert_, based on my expertise in the field, that absolute > > > > > > > time is NOT used anywhere in physics today. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's how it is, end of story. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Jan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not end of story...yous people are simply afraid of 'absolute time' because yous simply don't understand it. > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Jan > > > > > > > > 'The more things change, the more they remain the same.' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aristole - The more things change... > > > > > > > > Newton - the more they remain the same. > > > > > > (i knows yous people don't understand short sentences...) > > > > > > Aristole believed Time is change... > > > > > > and Newton believed Time flows without change. > > > > > > 'absolute time' is time independent of change... > > > > > > So, you guys went with Aristole cause yous don't understand Newton time. > > > > In other words, my dear relativity experts, Relativity is.. 'imprecise time'. > > > > Aristole time is imprecise time.. > > > > Newton's time is precise time. > > > > Everyone knows...precise time (absolute time) is NOT used anywhere in physics today according to..Jan. > > > > I guess it is much easier using clocks that have the imprecise time on it...(always coming up with a better clock) > > > > Einstein's relativity Time might be a little off here and there, right? "I'll catch that train, I'm only a minute late..." > > > > It doesn't matter...it's relative. > > (trains used to be puposely a few minuts late because everyone had > imprecise time...) > > Einstein discovered this 'imprecise time' so he invented ...relativity. > > cause, not matter what time you think it is...it's wrong. > > I heard they are coming up with a new atmoic clock...it suppose to have > better imprecise time. but hey, if you understand relativity..you know that it's impossible to come up with the precise time.