Path: csiph.com!feeder.erje.net!2.us.feeder.erje.net!feeder.usenetexpress.com!feeder-in1.iad1.usenetexpress.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!buffer1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2017 14:19:14 -0500 Message-ID: <59AB0433.2A87@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2017 12:19:15 -0700 From: The Starmaker Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Interstellar Travel and time taken for the trip. (No time dilation for the Earth) References: <7a2245c1-0f89-41df-8571-afb3f24e8930@googlegroups.com> <11101566-4226-4cd6-912a-80066a5cf7e8@googlegroups.com> <59A9B7A3.2767@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 170902-0, 09/02/2017), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Lines: 34 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 108.219.229.47 X-Trace: sv3-IKTECRF2Y7z8mPt3Y5/tBmeJ4X/YwIXHKZA9Ve5irHfMCXoC/SZDAaXtXvarwKVjArF2K5Z40Z3lx69!JZKLkfdTJmKtlsRoAG/ouh26XePgmUUtL25LfAt1/qXCzkL7ohJuO9kMp1p88vBxT1Yd8cKkNF+4!nwISmcepMlU= X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 2165 Xref: csiph.com sci.physics.relativity:430843 The Starmaker wrote: > > rotchm wrote: > > > > On Friday, September 1, 2017 at 6:25:36 AM UTC-4, gehan.am...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > Curiously, he ends with the suggestion that long distance > > > travel would not be so attractive because the traveler will > > > be returning to an Earth that exists far in the future. > > > > > > But this cannot be. > > > > When you leave your place in the morning & you come back to it later in the evening, you arrive there "in the future"; You left at 8 am and reappeared there at 5 pm. it does happen! > > > > > > You wake up in the morning > and you're back in the past again... > > or, you never arrived "in the future". > > morning and evening are both the same place. > > Where is the future? There is only the ...Now. Not the Here, the Now. The Here is overthere... the Now is overhere.