Path: csiph.com!3.us.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!feeder.usenetexpress.com!feeder1.iad1.usenetexpress.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!buffer1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!buffer2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2017 02:14:26 -0500 Message-ID: <595B4050.777A@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2017 00:14:24 -0700 From: The Starmaker Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: What Science actually is, TODAY References: <3fd7d76b-795e-4665-863b-f9a00fbab513@googlegroups.com> <5ec220fe-2d5d-4b66-bf4e-aa11c6202f11@googlegroups.com> <0b2eede6-6e27-46a9-a6ac-b95636312917@googlegroups.com> <4c4a095e-56ec-42c8-9ea1-0978a4d344db@googlegroups.com> <594d7bd7$0$59134$b1db1813$15bdbe48@news.astraweb.com> <594ee42e$0$55423$b1db1813$145976f0@news.astraweb.com> <7806701.VV5PYv0bhD@PointedEars.de> <87ef56f6-7fb1-37ac-67cc-7f4d044c2704@PointedEars.de> <5956de23$0$43844$c3e8da3$5e5e430d@news.astraweb.com> <2904523f-6fdf-42eb-b5de-feff4e5ab934@googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 170703-2, 07/03/2017), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Lines: 69 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 108.219.229.47 X-Trace: sv3-lGfKZ+XbsWaHMj2jcc2sp2wskDmCxtjtJJI7PN2bkQTLIVCdXsopy27FB+0+Qi2F+Yl4gx1cFmyqgfJ!RWM5r6JjF0TizYTa5hFKF7Nd5sETI0LJpcI2eno6FDgflvc2gMHRsM305Oao9M7lITlS1xjoLGYg!yzVopdQg0aM= X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 4514 Xref: csiph.com sci.physics.relativity:423915 Odd Bodkin wrote: > > On 7/2/17 6:44 AM, kenseto wrote: > > On Friday, June 30, 2017 at 9:25:19 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote: > >> benj wrote: > >>> On 6/30/2017 7:13 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > >>>> Tom Roberts wrote: > >>>>> On 6/29/17 6/29/17 7:47 AM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > >>>>>> Odd Bodkin wrote: > >>>>>>> g-2. The QED calculation that gets the answer right to 12 decimal places > >>>>>>> invokes photons that go backwards in time. > >>>>>> Really? [x] Send Feynman diagram! > >>>>> > >>>>> Consider ANY Feynman diagram with at least one vertex. […] > >>>> > >>>> No, I want to see one where *photons* go backwards in time. > >>>> I have not seen such one yet. Antimatter, no problem. > >>>> > >>>> Thank you for the explanation, though. > >>>> > >>> Look out Thom, Odd says that nobody believes that things cannot go > >>> backward in time anymore. I asked him for an example of the present > >>> determined by future events but I"m still waiting right here for his > >>> reply. I wonder if he's having difficulty? > >>> > >> > >> g-2. Are you deaf? > >> > >>> The theory of advanced waves is very important with results like being > >>> able to reconstruct an image that has been distorted by the atmosphere > >>> or a bathroom window! Practical applications everywhere. But Odd can't > >>> point me to the device sales on Amazon. > >>> > >> > >> Devices? What do devices have to do with how nature works. There are no > >> devices that form planets. Does that prove to you planets don't get formed? > > > > Sure there are devices that form planets. > > > > Man made devices that form planets? > Do tell. > Where does it say "Man made devices"??? Did you just made that up?? Putting words into people's mouth? Despickable. de·vice d?'vis/ noun noun: device; plural noun: devices 1. a thing made or adapted for a particular purpose, especially a piece of mechanical or electronic equipment. "a measuring device" synonyms: implement, gadget, utensil, tool, appliance, apparatus, instrument, machine, For example: The machinery that makes the earth go around the sun. The machinery behind Gravity. A device that makes the earth Go around the sun. You probably need a machine to describe it since mathematics cannot.