Path: csiph.com!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: The Starmaker Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: The Speed of Thought Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 10:35:35 -0700 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 118 Message-ID: <591B3867.232D@ix.netcom.com> References: <58FBA2D2.5616@ix.netcom.com> <58ffde50$0$28927$c3e8da3$88b277c5@news.astraweb.com> <081ea091-57a8-4857-9866-270ac3094b11@googlegroups.com> <59023D8A.4583@ix.netcom.com> <5902DEC8.2497@ix.netcom.com> <59037E2E.BA9@ix.netcom.com> <5904D1A4.F61@ix.netcom.com> <5908E005.6B1C@ix.netcom.com> <034d1c91-3bf2-4373-87c0-26a6d108b1a4@googlegroups.com> <590BA9B9.3156@ix.netcom.com> <6d3d7675-c4e9-4644-ba7e-6c9ab630b7b8@googlegroups.com> <5911598B.7C6B@ix.netcom.com> <41f7b3a1-2b56-4a27-9e48-6538ca286490@googlegroups.com> <5912B1EA.70C1@ix.netcom.com> <5918B37B.D66@ix.netcom.com> <591933C4.2FE4@ix.netcom.com> <5919F188.29DC@ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com NNTP-Posting-Host: X9ItFNC7Zcz4l6MobL/YRA.user.gioia.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 170516-2, 05/16/2017), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) Xref: csiph.com sci.physics.relativity:419658 Ned Latham wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----smip---- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One cannot measure Time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One can, howevber, measure duration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Surely you heard Einsten said Time is an illusion... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is that what he meant when he included time as the fourth dimension > > > > > > > in his postulated "space-time" continuum? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----snip---- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The fact is...Time cannot even be...observed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > False. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My how time flies... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Start your stopwatch, observe the flies crawling along the surface > > > > > > > you put them on, stop the stopwatch. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Simple, realt. > > > > > > > > > > > > Using a stopwatch, and observing the flies crawling along the > > > > > > surface..is not measuring Time itself. > > > > > > > > > > I didn't say it is, dimwit. It's hiw you time flies. > > > > > > > > > > > > "From these movements, we infer the passage of time." > > > > > > --According to Newton > > > > > > > > > > Tou've been told. Time is nor a pgenimenonm it's a boumenon. > > > > > > > > > > > "infer" is the operative word...it means 'guess'. > > > > > > > > > > Wrong. It means "deduce". > > > > > > > > > > And Newton was wrong. Time is like Number: all in the mind of man. > > > > > > > > > > You've been told all that before. Pay attention. > > > > > > > > 3. > > > > to guess; speculate; surmise. > > > > > > Get back to me when you've learnt something about English usage, nitwit. > > > "Argument" from some subliterate "authority" don't cut it. > > > > I looked here and I don't see the meaning being "deduce" > > You do understand that the web is not a good source of accurate information, > right? And that thanks to the invidious and virtually ubiquitous influence > of Hollywood, it's worse with English than pretty much everything else? > > > https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/infer > > Merriam-Webster is a case in point. It's American, for one thing, > and it's far too generous with faddistic usages. > > Even so. it's definition of "infer" starts of with > > "1: to derive as a conclusion from facts or premises" > > IOW, deduce. > > > I see..."guess"! > > That's the second definition, you lying maggot. I see fire and I infer there is smoke your letter … allows me to infer that you are as well as ever — O. W. Holmes †1935 It means ..."guess"! Which is what the 'scientific community' specializes in...guesses. Guess what time it is. Definition of infer inferred; inferring transitive verb 1 : to derive as a conclusion from facts or premises we see smoke and infer fire — L. A. White — compare imply 2 : guess, surmise your letter … allows me to infer that you are as well as ever — O. W. Holmes †1935 3 a : to involve as a normal outcome of thoughtb : to point out : indicate this doth infer the zeal I had to see him — William Shakespeare another survey … infers that two-thirds of all present computer installations are not paying for themselves — H. R. Chellman 4 : suggest, hint are you inferring I'm incompetent?