Path: csiph.com!xmission!news.glorb.com!peer03.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!buffer1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!buffer2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 14 May 2017 23:51:15 -0500 Message-ID: <591933C4.2FE4@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 14 May 2017 21:51:16 -0700 From: The Starmaker Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: The Speed of Thought References: <58FBA2D2.5616@ix.netcom.com> <58ffbd0a$0$60157$c3e8da3$66d3cc2f@news.astraweb.com> <58ffde50$0$28927$c3e8da3$88b277c5@news.astraweb.com> <081ea091-57a8-4857-9866-270ac3094b11@googlegroups.com> <59023D8A.4583@ix.netcom.com> <5902DEC8.2497@ix.netcom.com> <59037E2E.BA9@ix.netcom.com> <5904D1A4.F61@ix.netcom.com> <5908E005.6B1C@ix.netcom.com> <034d1c91-3bf2-4373-87c0-26a6d108b1a4@googlegroups.com> <590BA9B9.3156@ix.netcom.com> <6d3d7675-c4e9-4644-ba7e-6c9ab630b7b8@googlegroups.com> <5911598B.7C6B@ix.netcom.com> <41f7b3a1-2b56-4a27-9e48-6538ca286490@googlegroups.com> <5912B1EA.70C1@ix.netcom.com> <5918B37B.D66@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 170514-2, 05/14/2017), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Lines: 90 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 108.219.229.47 X-Trace: sv3-Xc7F3TcLfDoQHmLOvZUpIZEpkXndITNH0HuoE/m4jxeHxvWhYFRZ3TkDNyXq2mjYtH8NBISDvmD4siL!COyNXZ0FczKKRLNI1EAirDzXJRqg+1WiuOAnCI4ff3W4aQJY+Zbg+yPzFbU6ncsa4E13nCtytEKb!FahuxeAC7wk= X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 4184 X-Received-Bytes: 4306 X-Received-Body-CRC: 531829961 Xref: csiph.com sci.physics.relativity:419467 Ned Latham wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > Ned Latham wrote: > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > ----smip---- > > > > > > > One cannot measure Time. > > > > > > One can, howevber, measure duration. > > > > > > > Surely you heard Einsten said Time is an illusion... > > > > > > Is that what he meant when he included time as the fourth dimension > > > in his postulated "space-time" continuum? > > > > > > ----snip---- > > > > > > > The fact is...Time cannot even be...observed. > > > > > > False. > > > > > > > My how time flies... > > > > > > Start your stopwatch, observe the flies crawling along the surface > > > you put them on, stop the stopwatch. > > > > > > Simple, realt. > > > > Using a stopwatch, and observing the flies crawling along the > > surface..is not measuring Time itself. > > I didn't say it is, dimwit. It's hiw you time flies. > > > > "From these movements, we infer the passage of time." > > --According to Newton > > Tou've been told. Time is nor a pgenimenonm it's a boumenon. > > > "infer" is the operative word...it means 'guess'. > > Wrong. It means "deduce". > > And Newton was wrong. Time is like Number: all is the mind of man. > > You've been told all that before. Pat attention. > > ----snip---- 3. to guess; speculate; surmise. [in-fur] Synonyms Examples Word Origin See more synonyms on Thesaurus.com verb (used with object), inferred, inferring. 1. to derive by reasoning; conclude or judge from premises or evidence: They inferred his displeasure from his cool tone of voice. 2. (of facts, circumstances, statements, etc.) to indicate or involve as a conclusion; lead to. 3. to guess; speculate; surmise. 4. to hint; imply; suggest. verb (used without object), inferred, inferring. 5. to draw a conclusion, as by reasoning. http://www.dictionary.com/browse/infer Guesses and speculation is all your variable t is... "From these movements, we 'guess' the passage of time." --According to Newton