Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!feeder.usenetexpress.com!feeder1.iad1.usenetexpress.com!216.166.98.84.MISMATCH!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!buffer1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!buffer2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2017 11:13:42 -0600 Message-ID: <586FD042.6EAB@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2017 09:13:38 -0800 From: The Starmaker Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,alt.astronomy,sci.math Subject: Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible References: <5866B352.6F63@ix.netcom.com> <58673243.3914@ix.netcom.com> <586758A0.1F74@ix.netcom.com> <5867FE37.723@ix.netcom.com> <58685AA8.4AAB@ix.netcom.com> <5869A346.1C8@ix.netcom.com> <5869E028.3FF1@ix.netcom.com> <586A99A4.792E@ix.netcom.com> <586C858B.4A@ix.netcom.com> <586C8DC4.2DF3@ix.netcom.com> <586EA0AD.16BE@ix.netcom.com> <586EF7F2.26DB@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 92 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 108.219.229.47 X-Trace: sv3-bieVBYiXrjXnrGwLg/rFnlQj+Qm4G2T51+GY+uYEnJd1cSjzn51EMA3T55HXitPRTSTbbVipxhDabCI!MpAWtRS2Cx+u00sA0tKogPXiPm7wrfTCKFiCT3IeEvRV4afJN1LiHrTmJP6rrpzo9wUInLSkUoqW!1tnH4sPOnHQ= X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 4691 Xref: csiph.com rec.arts.sf.written:461731 sci.physics:611940 sci.physics.relativity:404296 alt.astronomy:288639 sci.math:359706 Sylvia Else wrote: > > On 6/01/2017 12:50 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > Sylvia Else wrote: > >> > >> On 6/01/2017 6:38 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> how about the time traveler goes back a day and buys a lottery ticket > >>> that pays 500 million dollars, goes back to the future and deposits > >>> the money, goes back again, plays the same numbers, goes back and > >>> deposits another 500 million, goes back again, plays the same > >>> numbers, goes back and deposits another 500 million, > >>> > >>> > >>> i'm having trouble figuring out where is all this money coming > >>> from... are the serial numbers the same? are the lottery officals > >>> wondering why are there all these paid checks made out to the same > >>> person shows paid over billion dollars but only 500 million paid > >>> out.. > >>> > >>> something is wrong with your 'possible time travel senerios'. > >>> > >>> Nature doesn't work this way. > >> > >> Well, we don't know how it works (if it works) in the context of time > >> travel. > >> > >> In a version of the universe where a time traveller returns to a new > >> branch of history each time he travels back and forward, he'd find that > >> he only ever managed to accumulate one payout, because he never returns > >> to the version of history in which he'd previously deposited a payout. > >> > >> He might even find that the winning numbers change in each new future > >> (butterfly effect), making his lottery tickets worthless. > >> > >> Sylvia. > > > > > > What? > > > > I'll reiterate... > > > > he travels back in time to > > Dec. 30th 2016 > > buys a lottery ticket > > numbers are 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 > > wins and gets a check for 500 million.. > > deposits the check.. > > > > he goes back in time to > > Dec. 30th 2016 > > buys a lottery ticket > > numbers are 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 > > wins and gets a check for 500 million.. > > deposits the check.. > > > > he goes back in time to > > Dec. 30th 2016 > > buys a lottery ticket > > numbers are 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 > > wins and gets a check for 500 million.. > > deposits the check.. > > > > he goes back in time to > > Dec. 30th 2016 > > buys a lottery ticket > > numbers are 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 > > wins and gets a check for 500 million.. > > deposits the check.. > > > > He's got two billion dollars now in the bank. > > > > > > he goes back in time to > > Dec. 30th 2016 .... > > > > Again, you persist in assuming you preferred model of how time travel > works, and refuse to accept that if time travel is possible, it may > operate in a different way. > > Sylvia. You cannot invoke unproven 'other universes' just so you can come up with ad hoc theories to everything unanswered. That is what con artist so... are you a con artist? You have a red car in one universe and a black car in the other universe, is that right????