Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!news.glorb.com!peer02.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!buffer1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2017 18:48:05 -0600 Message-ID: <5869A346.1C8@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2017 16:48:06 -0800 From: The Starmaker Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,alt.astronomy Subject: Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible References: <5866B352.6F63@ix.netcom.com> <58673243.3914@ix.netcom.com> <586758A0.1F74@ix.netcom.com> <5867FE37.723@ix.netcom.com> <58685AA8.4AAB@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 94 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 108.219.229.47 X-Trace: sv3-nzNaWtsP5JBg1CFvp/qm81DtRZRULXfdV6f9KNaqY2PFbjowOaC3bcdPZWPZS4py6P4/olEf/E409aM!Pi4Aa346JXL859a4l2it9ELpFEdkiCapu09mb13+2PVw8xBo9PBeVXVdpHcL6FETIiRkyAsjuxN/!vEwtYKF2hA== X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 4598 X-Received-Bytes: 4689 X-Received-Body-CRC: 65531291 Xref: csiph.com rec.arts.sf.written:461411 sci.physics:611248 sci.physics.relativity:403744 alt.astronomy:288539 The Starmaker wrote: > > Sylvia Else wrote: > > > > On 1/01/2017 5:51 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > > > Sylvia Else wrote: > > >> > > >> On 31/12/2016 6:05 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > >>> Sylvia Else wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> On 31/12/2016 3:21 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > >>>>> Sylvia Else wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> On 31/12/2016 6:19 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > > >>>>>>> lets say you travel back in time in a time machine and your > > >>>>>>> time machine lands on your grandfather and kills him... > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Time Travel Is Not Possible. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Any answers you give saying time travel is possible would > > >>>>>>> be...absurd answers. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> i don't want to hear absurd answers like you come back in > > >>>>>>> unproven paralell universes where your father and grandfather > > >>>>>>> still exist... > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> i don't want to hear it! > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Why not? You're effectively saying that the Universe has a > > >>>>>> particular form, one in which your proof works. That's akin to > > >>>>>> a circular argument. Maybe the universe does have such a form, > > >>>>>> and time travel really is impossible, but you have no proof of > > >>>>>> that. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Sylvia. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> I would say by now somebody in the far future would be here > > >>>>> now... > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> That's a different argument. But maybe the reason no time traveller > > >>>> from the far future has come here is that there is no far future > > >>>> from which to come - civilisation wipes itself out - humans become > > >>>> extinct due to natural disaster, etc. > > >>>> > > >>>> Sylvia. > > >>> > > >>> Where did you get this idea "civilisation wipes itself out", and > > >>> "humans become extinct"? a crystal ball?? > > >>> > > >> > > >> They're merely possibilities. Since they are possible, you cannot use > > >> the non-existence of time travellers from the future as proof that time > > >> travel is impossible. > > >> > > >> Sylvia. > > > > > > So, you actually believe that it is possible that a whole "civilisation" can be wiped out?? How??? Can you give an example? > > > > Nearby supernova, collision between black-holes somewhere in the > > galactic neighbourhood, large comet collision with Earth, worldwide > > nuclear war, biological weapons, runaway global warming, return to > > ice-ball Earth. The list of possibilities is endless. > > > > > > > > Also, I don't see any signs of 'humans becoming extint', ...what signs do you see, Mrs Else? > > > > > > > Well, for the most part there wouldn't be any signs, because it wouldn't > > be a gradual process. > > > > Sylvia. > > Most girls don't even think like you do... I wrote "an example" not 'examples'... lets take one of your examples: "large comet collision with Earth". It has never in the past happen to wipe out a whole cilivization, maybe a few ants...it's speculation, I DON'T WANT TO HEAR SPECULATION. Your so-called theories are useless today. They are nothing more than science fiction ideas.