Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!news.glorb.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!buffer1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 12:51:33 -0600 Message-ID: <5867FE37.723@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 10:51:35 -0800 From: The Starmaker Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,alt.astronomy Subject: Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible References: <5866B352.6F63@ix.netcom.com> <58673243.3914@ix.netcom.com> <586758A0.1F74@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 65 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 108.219.229.47 X-Trace: sv3-oUAbvdeLQkkIUVwXRuvLlJjTELwOFYy6kBfIR7YP/pGh0x82rTpo5kOV8/CRL0qYRlw+C7NnA4FeqVi!omeWnvLUxeGoxZmqY9xpGG177GMUzMbL2IruatmtYoiGdgMHjXp0+/l0ByWc+rYoIG3jsyknHFXx!IQ2/BhtBXg== X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 3309 Xref: csiph.com rec.arts.sf.written:461316 sci.physics:611047 sci.physics.relativity:403616 alt.astronomy:288488 Sylvia Else wrote: > > On 31/12/2016 6:05 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > Sylvia Else wrote: > >> > >> On 31/12/2016 3:21 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>> Sylvia Else wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On 31/12/2016 6:19 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>> lets say you travel back in time in a time machine and your > >>>>> time machine lands on your grandfather and kills him... > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Time Travel Is Not Possible. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Any answers you give saying time travel is possible would > >>>>> be...absurd answers. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> i don't want to hear absurd answers like you come back in > >>>>> unproven paralell universes where your father and grandfather > >>>>> still exist... > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> i don't want to hear it! > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> Why not? You're effectively saying that the Universe has a > >>>> particular form, one in which your proof works. That's akin to > >>>> a circular argument. Maybe the universe does have such a form, > >>>> and time travel really is impossible, but you have no proof of > >>>> that. > >>>> > >>>> Sylvia. > >>> > >>> > >>> I would say by now somebody in the far future would be here > >>> now... > >>> > >> > >> That's a different argument. But maybe the reason no time traveller > >> from the far future has come here is that there is no far future > >> from which to come - civilisation wipes itself out - humans become > >> extinct due to natural disaster, etc. > >> > >> Sylvia. > > > > Where did you get this idea "civilisation wipes itself out", and > > "humans become extinct"? a crystal ball?? > > > > They're merely possibilities. Since they are possible, you cannot use > the non-existence of time travellers from the future as proof that time > travel is impossible. > > Sylvia. So, you actually believe that it is possible that a whole "civilisation" can be wiped out?? How??? Can you give an example? Also, I don't see any signs of 'humans becoming extint', ...what signs do you see, Mrs Else?