Path: csiph.com!feeder.erje.net!2.us.feeder.erje.net!newspeer1.nac.net!border2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!buffer2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 12:41:39 -0600 Message-ID: <583F1D61.5B@ix.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 10:41:37 -0800 From: The Starmaker Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: An easy way to understand the Gravitational Redshift References: <6a6b5343-42c4-4ad9-8cc6-a44a49755200@googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 45 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 108.219.229.47 X-Trace: sv3-B4KU3j0Fy7JTb+JVMqW1sd2EGzsJXwwexVLwBw6X1O1k7MwW/WT3ZwWCi2rs+oBrsQhMW+0ojNHypwR!tO9Sv5axldAUDtCaZHuv6UPfJgH1buylBal7uEm2p0p1Qzzw5A6x4O7KNdGd+L0M6rZ4aACMIWfz!DNebD4e5 X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 2772 Xref: csiph.com sci.physics.relativity:400360 Edgar L. Owen wrote: > > All, > > Here is an easy way to understand the gravitational redshift based on some hidden principles of relativity. > > The MEv Principle explains that a gravitational field is best modeled as a field of intrinsic velocity density (gravitational fields are vibrational fields in space). Modeling all forms of mass and energy as different forms of spatial velocity also solves the fundamental problem of why all forms of mass and energy are conserved since it's now just a matter of converting one form of spatial velocity into the equivalent amount of another form. > > The STc Principle tells us that the combined spatial and time velocities of anything is always c. Thus the intrinsic spatial velocity of a gravitational field subtracts from the velocity of time within it and this means the light waves slow and become redshifted. > > These 2 fundamental principles of relativity also explain everything else about it. Gravitational time dilation and linear velocity time dilation are now seen as 2 cases of the same underlying STc Principle. > > This is all explained in detail in my book Relativity Made Easy, The Hidden Principles available on Amazon under my name in both a paperback and Kindle edition. > > Edgar > Edgar L. Owen based on some "hidden principles"???? "some"? "hidden"?? I'll tell you some hidden principles.. If you looked at the night sky 'before the big bang' you would see stars all aligned with each other in straight lines and none of the stars ever burned out. You could draw a straight line between any two stars. As more stars were born they simply ran out of space. The Starmaker