Path: csiph.com!feeder.erje.net!2.us.feeder.erje.net!newspeer1.nac.net!border2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!buffer2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!buffer1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 20:45:01 -0500 Message-ID: <5813FF3D.3904@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2016 18:45:33 -0700 From: The Starmaker Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Penrose's new book References: <7505c382-b205-4514-85a0-c312e30e4339@googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 51 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 108.219.229.47 X-Trace: sv3-skFtiwt6dellZRZgMFE+bKYBB0OjpJgvP1AJWXeZxmCzTwVyZV9DsnXQZKKOIC+RTMR8Pr4KKJTEyOC!k+7EbxrzzQAdp1w2nOsGEgcS4HO2tawjTeYGA6Sr4gMYS+KSzD1A/OUsN8XwRvZb80ThozDT949C!uarQ8o3HEt0= X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 2822 Xref: csiph.com sci.physics.relativity:397090 JanPB wrote: > > On Tuesday, October 25, 2016 at 8:20:31 PM UTC-7, Ross A. Finlayson wrote: > > R. Penrose's book is pretty great. > > > > It's a pretty good single source for > > a lot of what is under consideration > > in foundations as would need reconcile > > with theory and experiment. > > > > Following "Road to Reality" as the modern > > treatise on mathematical physics, this new > > book "Fashion, Faith, and Fantasy in the > > New Physics of the Universe" outlays much > > of the necessary complement of background > > to give the modern reader in physics a > > relevant perspective to issues in questions > > in modern physics. > > > > I'd more highly recommend it but I'm only > > on page 70. Otherwise my taste lies with, > > for example, Davies as one of the great > > explicators (and of very sound physics), > > Hawking is not poor, lately I read some > > Bohr and it was very good. > > > > I'd be interested in your comments as you > > know it or have read it. > > Penrose is one of my fav. writers (except his speculation on the "ideal > world" are hopelessly naive IMHO, people have been thinking about this > stuff literally for milennia, unfortunately studying it is completely > out of fashion for scientists these days - long story). > > Glancing at the table of content: it looks very similar to his other > books, what's the difference? > > Another oddity: not a single mention of the quantum eraser according to > the Amazon search). > > -- > Jan One mustn't forget...quantum theory is ..just a theory. quantum eraser erasers quantum.. It isn't there because quantum theory is not there. You cannot understand that which does not exist.