Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!news.glorb.com!peer02.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!buffer1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!buffer2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 18:34:58 -0500 Message-ID: <57B797BA.3142@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 16:35:22 -0700 From: The Starmaker Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Relativity of Simultaneity (RoS) is a bogus concept of physics References: <830ba67c-65ca-4831-b93b-6408ddaeb7e7@googlegroups.com> <727e0767-d0cb-43ef-a1d3-756fcf48fe33@googlegroups.com> <5OednZEEO8VxZQDKnZ2dnUU7_83NnZ2d@giganews.com> <79cc7d2f-afe2-4fac-b25c-2bbc02d64dcb@googlegroups.com> <1a737715-5997-468b-94d4-2e9e99f25ecf@googlegroups.com> <769416dc-cb54-4b3b-88ec-ce01866e27e8@googlegroups.com> <45bf4c40-dd15-4335-beed-712f52c3311f@googlegroups.com> <257c5d93-6444-43ec-a5c4-95c635026e18@googlegroups.com> <9NOdnZc-W_aVjivKnZ2dnUU7_83NnZ2d@giganews.com> <4d742c0b-c105-4535-a8c6-303a0915de08@googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 24 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 108.219.229.47 X-Trace: sv3-P0tmYGDqNoPNgV72Y4PYWZ8RTi+5hGG4Ywsg5jumlJdpVXQc6HrxIIcHbCFqZYhhrGPBaTDOwE/B0h2!7ZT1BPvAxE8XS3Zom5TVE1KR0GCyLo1VHOuCHOEySHClPrJskYxic9ln3TDzcYYLpy5sSuzHosyJ!IiwwEuJVbfU= X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 3079 X-Received-Bytes: 3201 X-Received-Body-CRC: 3832375823 Xref: csiph.com sci.physics.relativity:390412 Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote: > > On Friday, August 19, 2016 at 5:19:35 PM UTC-5, HGWilson, DSc. wrote: > > On 19/08/16 11:03, Tom Roberts wrote: > > > > Look up and READ the references. Interferometry can do much more than > > > that. > > > > Gawd you talk crap...and even that is becoming worse every year.. > > > > Interferometry counts wavelengths in order to standardize lengths. Then > > those lengths can be used to measure the travel times and speeds of > > light. How does it establish those wavelength accurate to nine > > significant figures? > > > > As I said, the current state is that the constant known as c is very > > sensibly DEFINED with infinite accuracy and it is assumed that all EM > > leaves its source at c (maybe not entirely sensible). > > So OW light speed relative to its source is effectively defined as c. > > OWLS generally can have any value. > > Given that c is a defined value, which assuming that photons are massless, What is Mass?