Path: csiph.com!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder01.blueworldhosting.com!peer01.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 14:44:01 -0500 Message-ID: <575DBBAE.4F97@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 12:44:46 -0700 From: The Starmaker Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: The Nightmare of Einstein's General Relativity References: <5af7c5d9-875e-402f-a8a3-3a37bdd1f6da@googlegroups.com> <575B8A5F.E2B@ix.netcom.com> <575B8BDF.5639@ix.netcom.com> <575B8E1C.194D@ix.netcom.com> <575C653E.1D3E@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 86 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 108.219.229.47 X-Trace: sv3-jB0YycGctYjMkrKzdyPf2iEVMM15LEs5/WyevFfCwYYx+mmhN98DFMJIeYiTX7EZkHRNVVuTCr4IaqC!WB8IZ3ypvJZ/LXNN5yMafJyPb83ltaS0P0RrLHgJ7O+rID1nodJIQpPck4cS08OGFe5pVkiFWr6k!erfY8ok+F+s= X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 4363 X-Received-Bytes: 4475 X-Received-Body-CRC: 1129007297 Xref: csiph.com sci.physics.relativity:385747 The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > JanPB wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 1:03:30 PM UTC-7, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > > > > > > Użytkownik "JanPB" napisał w wiadomości grup > > > > > > dyskusyjnych:dab0a89e-4b70-438b-9d78-5b62fb087eb9@googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > > > > > > |There is no such thing as "Einsteinians". This is crackpot usage so might > > > > > > > > > > > > Gobbledygook! > > > > > > > > > > No, the phrase "Einsteinian" is used only by relativity deniers. This is simply a fact and > > > > > I'm sorry I am powerless to change it. > > > > > > > > > > (BTW, as always, I'm not talking to you but for the record, so don't expect me answering > > > > > your posts with any "consistency" from your POV.) > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Jan > > > > > > > > There are no "relativity deniers", there are only relativity critics. > > > > Like a movie critic..or a howard stern critic. > > > > > > > > Relativity is just another word for...perspective. > > > > > > > > > > The only "relativity deniers" that exist are those that deny that > > > einstein built the atomic bomb using his relativity theory. > > > > > > Those are in fact, relativity deniers. And they should be shot. > > > > > > Hung from a tree...or thrown inside a pizza oven. > > > > > > > ...and Jan PB, if you knew *anything* about Einstein himself, there is no bigger critic and denier than Einstein himself! > > > > The only "relativity deniers" that exist are those that deny that > > > einstein built the atomic bomb using his relativity theory. > > Okay, here is a question for not the einstein critics, but for the "relativity deniers"... > > (The only "relativity deniers" that exist are those that deny that einstein built the atomic bomb using his relativity theory.) > > Albert Einstein wrote in 1905 in his book "The Principle of Relativity": > > "It is not impossible that with bodies whose energy-content is variable to a > high degree (e.g. with radium salts) the theory may be successfully put to the > test." -Albert Einstein > > https://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf > > The question I put to you is... > > What kind of "test" did Einstein had in mind? I didn't expect anyone to....'come out of the closet'. There is only one way to "put to the test" that mass and energy were equivalent, and that's by building an atomic bomb. From 1905 fast forward to 1939... "...new 'radium'-like elements would be generated. Now it appears almost certain that this could be achieved in the immediate future. This new phenomenon would also lead to the construction of bombs, and it is conceivable - though much less certain - that extremely power- ful bombs of a new type may thus be constructed." -albert einstein Put it to the test. 'If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong.'