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JanPB wrote:
> 
> On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 1:03:31 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > JanPB wrote:
> > >
> > > On Friday, May 27, 2016 at 11:26:41 PM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote:
> > > >
> > > > It is legal to criticise whatever you like in physics (or any other
> > > > science).
> > > >
> > > > But your critique will not get very far. Especially inside such
> > > > locked-in communities  critique will not be heard, since the insiders
> > > > have no interest in listening to challenging statements from outside.
> > >
> > > No. It doesn't work that way. The reality is that _in fact_ there are no "challenging statements"
> > > in physics (or mathematics) "from the outside" to speak of(*). Physics and mathematics have
> > > evolved to the point where a significant amount of time and honest work is required to even
> > > understand the subject fully, let alone contribute to it.
> > >
> > > So the people "inside" can tell right away that such "challenges" are worthless but the
> > > "challengers" cannot understand why. Instead, they claim some weird "conspiracies" and
> > > vent on the Internet.
> > >
> > > (*) except philosophical
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jan
> >
> > That is complete garbage!
> >
> >
> > Real physics comes from...'understanding' without the mathematics.
> 
> Without understanding the mathematics you have no understanding of physics.
> 
> --
> Jan

the list is too long
of those that can do
without...the mathematics.

From yesterday to Todays..

How about Einstein with his thought experments?

or

Michael Faraday

Charles Darwin

or Feynman with his...diagrams?


or the top
scientist TODAY?

Today?

The top guy...doesn't use math.

Today.