Path: csiph.com!feeder.erje.net!2.us.feeder.erje.net!news.glorb.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 15:03:29 -0500 Message-ID: <5749F99D.937@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 13:03:41 -0700 From: The Starmaker Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: How to be a "real" scientist. References: <574747ce$0$45348$b1db1813$2411a48f@news.astraweb.com> <5747e91f$0$57955$c3e8da3$c8b7d2e6@news.astraweb.com> <99270511-bf74-40f4-92f4-8f7340bdea12@googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 33 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 108.219.229.47 X-Trace: sv3-3UtKewrofgeBalIIyNpJy1TP9oSW/u2kylkHMgoTrtVRNnOCZg2BvSUIRi7pk9q+hZHP0KSPlfUnZIM!vVWB21Ig0U1qg95kAFTYk+EVTghk8SkLkWQSsBMDv4rWI/Y/985sPkelTzy9dg4QNnQ0ySP155Y4!CkjLwJFc2w== X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 2400 Xref: csiph.com sci.physics.relativity:384511 JanPB wrote: > > On Friday, May 27, 2016 at 11:26:41 PM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote: > > > > It is legal to criticise whatever you like in physics (or any other > > science). > > > > But your critique will not get very far. Especially inside such > > locked-in communities critique will not be heard, since the insiders > > have no interest in listening to challenging statements from outside. > > No. It doesn't work that way. The reality is that _in fact_ there are no "challenging statements" > in physics (or mathematics) "from the outside" to speak of(*). Physics and mathematics have > evolved to the point where a significant amount of time and honest work is required to even > understand the subject fully, let alone contribute to it. > > So the people "inside" can tell right away that such "challenges" are worthless but the > "challengers" cannot understand why. Instead, they claim some weird "conspiracies" and > vent on the Internet. > > (*) except philosophical > > -- > Jan That is complete garbage! Real physics comes from...'understanding' without the mathematics. The "inside" are worthless hypocrites..