Path: csiph.com!au2pb.net!feeder.erje.net!2.us.feeder.erje.net!news.glorb.com!peer02.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 13:30:49 -0500 Message-ID: <573CB4EA.5337@ix.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 11:31:06 -0700 From: The Starmaker Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Space-Time and Surrealism References: <573C07F2.710A@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 38 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 108.219.229.47 X-Trace: sv3-0fIqe4+X21s2Olgbyu3jq5XPUN3Ao5LXqCp6zc5LBxrxI21QsDqANrpbAcgOt2yd2D85VIP6vQ8p81b!BuogUYKWpF44TpGT/lRGey6Gae7WqwzM6zC4EhCRNEE+rVUprnBVh3BitsaIbMg2HYX05VaKxrrN!iS9PV6Vd80k= X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 2056 X-Received-Bytes: 2168 X-Received-Body-CRC: 706271991 Xref: csiph.com sci.physics:578824 sci.physics.relativity:383702 David (Time Lord) Fuller wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > Let me put is simply, but not clear... > > the past does not exist > the future does not exist > the present does not exist... > that means.. > spacetime isn't going anywhere. > > no spacetime > no time travel > no time dimension. > > Take off your shoes, hold a brick at shoulder height, and drop it on your toe. > > That will give some clarity to the validity to time, space, Gravity, mass, inertia, kinetic energy & the photons that relay the information that the brick is in process of traveling towards your toe. If I hold a brick at shoulder height, and drop it on my toe... it has nothing to do with space and time, Gravity, mass, inertia, kinetic energy & the photons... it has to do with...motion. But you need first to understand the definition of ..."motion" There is no motion in space and time. Does space move?