Path: csiph.com!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder01.blueworldhosting.com!peer01.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 01:32:33 -0500 Message-ID: <573C0C95.633E@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 23:32:53 -0700 From: The Starmaker Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Space-Time and Surrealism References: <573C07F2.710A@ix.netcom.com> <573C0B1A.5CE3@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 70 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 108.219.229.47 X-Trace: sv3-qNMXXnlDXkEnbVsSVfXJmQj9cakNPjVTAjtHCrBPT4+xkeJgOhxbY5Bg97lIYitO5ZH0JYK/kwnWkHS!VXJ0hy50vuCUxPQ3VP9E6H/LDZHEtvKxoLYZKRnhMkyCDXfYSwsSiDKhKmWjaPmnAhc8MuBNx7qG!zfRNocSkMHo= X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 3596 X-Received-Bytes: 3708 X-Received-Body-CRC: 2208066062 Xref: csiph.com sci.physics:578763 sci.physics.relativity:383676 The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > hanson wrote: > > > > > > The term "space-time" is idiotic & ill defined. > > > It has a different meaning and explanation from > > > author to author, each yelling at the other: > > > "You must learn" in their hope to cram their own > > > crap down other folks' throat... ahahahahaha... > > > > > > > In the real world there are 1D lengths or lines, > > > 2D areas or surfaces & 3D volumes or spaces. > > > But "space-time"? > > > Is it the product of "Volume x Time"?, > > > Is it a "Time in the Volume of Space"? > > > > > > > Semantics also says that "space" is a DIFFERENCE > > > or an Interval between 2 points, 2 lines or 2 volumes > > > or 2 times, which is what the SR/GR Lawyer-language > > > uses and then leads to space-like, time-like, mass-like > > > and certainly to _ass-like_ events, -states or -processes, > > > > > > > dubbed as Event-horizons, Roche-lobes, Schwartzschild > > > Radius, Einstein Rings, or Expanding Space, without > > > saying what it expands into, &/or/not specifying that the > > > highfaluting expression of "expanding space" merely > > > means an increase in the interval between 2 observations > > > or happenings, that have nothing to do with any increase > > > of 3D Space or Volume of some media. > > > > > > > Most of these terms mentioned above do NOT exist > > > in the real world, except in the agile minds of Einstein > > > Dinglesberries in/during their worship of AE's sphincter: > > > > > > > AE: "People like us, who **believe** in physics, > > > AE: know that the distinction between the > > > AE: past, resent, and future is only a stubbornly > > > AE: persistent illusion." > > > > > > Einstein's language-use in/for SR/GR is akin to the > > > depiction of Pablo Picasso's bizarre and distorted > > > schmiers of the human face & form on his canvasses > > > which is his realism that he called "Surrealism". > > > > > > > __ Both are Useless Yiddisher Street Corner Acts.__ > > > __________ aka Judenphysik __________ > > > > > > > > Let me put is simply, but not clear... > > > > the past does not exist > > the future does not exist > > the present does not exist... > > that means.. > > spacetime isn't going anywhere. > > > > no spacetime > > no time travel > > no time dimension. > > > > In other words...spacetime is just a math idea someone came up with, > ...nothing to do with nature. > Does space move?