Path: csiph.com!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder01.blueworldhosting.com!border2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2016 13:52:23 -0500 Message-ID: <571FB911.7C26@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2016 11:53:05 -0700 From: The Starmaker Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion References: <5716A893.7508@ix.netcom.com> <5717CEE5.D7F@ix.netcom.com> <571852a8$0$31281$c3e8da3$dd9697d2@news.astraweb.com> <571D4E3D.71D3@ix.netcom.com> <571DACB2.68E4@ix.netcom.com> <571F0C81.5399@ix.netcom.com> <6a468756-cf7c-48fa-8cc5-a0a77a507df1@googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 149 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 108.219.229.47 X-Trace: sv3-7tuj4DEopprzJZv8zP71N37jdOJaRsH5j1QuXqrOb3uybGOh7wwmuO99/dpnb6z3l8EB37H2YTnHb2r!zsy9moEXRRw1xPhpvvY9G14q2SDYrXoy3Px1MSeYoGAw3Q5oq5hS9YmcEfihG2eY+XOAhORvXOjd!I6G3S9gpDf0= X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 5467 Xref: csiph.com sci.physics:573491 sci.physics.relativity:382296 Gary Harnagel wrote: > > On Tuesday, April 26, 2016 at 12:35:14 AM UTC-6, The Starmaker wrote: > > > > The theory of relativity is not about Time > > False. Special relativity IS about time: > > http://press.princeton.edu/titles/8112.html My mistake...i forgot, you need explanation because there are more than one theory of relativity, and you have differculty figuring out which one it is. It's general one, not the special one. If you do a google search (or in your case a world wide web search) for the theory of relativity einstein https://www.google.com/#q=the+theory+of+relativity+einstein The first one that is on top is...The General Theory of Relativity. The other one you brought up is called Special Relatvity, but that doesn't count because Time doesn't exist. And spacetime doesn't exist. So, you need to diregard the first one and focus on the second one. The first one goes in the garbage. So the question is... If you put Gravity in a bottle and you light a match to it... what happens? Does it turn red or does it turn blue?? The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > Sylvia Else wrote: > > > > > > > > On 21/04/2016 2:10 PM, benj wrote: > > > > > On 04/20/2016 10:27 PM, Sylvia Else wrote: > > > > >> On 21/04/2016 4:48 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > > > > >>> Sylvia Else wrote: > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> On 20/04/2016 7:52 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > > > > >>>>> Time AND Space is an Illusion. > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> and that's that! > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> any questions? > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> What are you on? > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Sylvia. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Is time an illusion, Mrs. Else? > > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > > >> An illusion is perceptual process that causes something to have an > > > > >> appearance that differs significantly from its reality. > > > > >> > > > > >> So it is difficult to attach any real meaning to your question. > > > > >> > > > > >> Sylvia. > > > > > > > > > > It's difficult to attach any meaning to things Starfaker posts, but > > > > > nevertheless the question is a valid one. > > > > > > > > > > Can you imagine a situation where time is an Illusion? What does that > > > > > mean. Well, it would mean that in your PERCEPTION events would progress > > > > > and develop to your perception from the past to the present to the > > > > > future. But since it's an illusion, it would mean that in truth nothing > > > > > is changing at all and all events and seeming actions are perpetually > > > > > fixed and immutable. > > > > > > > > Just because one doesn't see the entirety of something doesn't mean it's > > > > an illusion. At the moment, I can only see the front side of my monitor, > > > > and part of its supporting base. There's no illusion there either. > > > > > > > > Sylvia. > > > > > > It's a blurred illusion. > > > > okay.. > > > > so Time is an illusion. > > > > Time doesn't exist. > > > > The past > > > > doesn't exist. > > > > The future > > > > doesn't exist. > > > > That leaves us > > > > with the Present. > > > > Does the Present exist..now? > > > > Here and now? > > > > Right here? > > > > I'm here right now... > > > > where are you at? > > > > You're not Here.. > > > > you're over there! > > > > If you say you're here.. > > > > i say, No..you're over there.. > > > > you're not here..i'm here. > > > > What time is it Now? > > The past doesn't exist > The future doesn't exist > The present doesn't exist. > > The theory of relativity is not about Time > The theory of relativity is not about Space > The theory of relativity is about Gravity... > > it's about the stuff that holds everything together. > > time doesn't hold everything together and neither does space..cause > neither one exist. > > So, if you put Gravity in a bottle > and you light a match to it... > what happens? > > Does it turn red or does it turn blue??