Path: csiph.com!feeder.erje.net!2.us.feeder.erje.net!news.glorb.com!peer03.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2016 01:35:12 -0500 Message-ID: <571F0C81.5399@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 23:36:49 -0700 From: The Starmaker Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Time AND Space is an Illusion References: <5716A893.7508@ix.netcom.com> <5717CEE5.D7F@ix.netcom.com> <571852a8$0$31281$c3e8da3$dd9697d2@news.astraweb.com> <571D4E3D.71D3@ix.netcom.com> <571DACB2.68E4@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 113 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 108.219.229.47 X-Trace: sv3-yy5flquHHu7e8/LQyc8NvqQYI6BCsSvpMuc3wp/0ngPktaBRE+hWiVH3FFiUMH9kTdRkmHNpWgJ9vrI!vdqJ2wv+x2YmcJ3ShCJP8D6vK8sQ+SvVKDsRHCA+eeAF/yGXRbZgFZNwK8MZMUpd/UyvzU3aa6Mz!zY+9j4pvJsQ= X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 4059 X-Received-Bytes: 4171 X-Received-Body-CRC: 394301765 Xref: csiph.com sci.physics:573345 sci.physics.relativity:382277 The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > Sylvia Else wrote: > > > > > > On 21/04/2016 2:10 PM, benj wrote: > > > > On 04/20/2016 10:27 PM, Sylvia Else wrote: > > > >> On 21/04/2016 4:48 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > > > >>> Sylvia Else wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>> On 20/04/2016 7:52 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > > > >>>>> Time AND Space is an Illusion. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> and that's that! > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> any questions? > > > >>>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> What are you on? > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Sylvia. > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Is time an illusion, Mrs. Else? > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> An illusion is perceptual process that causes something to have an > > > >> appearance that differs significantly from its reality. > > > >> > > > >> So it is difficult to attach any real meaning to your question. > > > >> > > > >> Sylvia. > > > > > > > > It's difficult to attach any meaning to things Starfaker posts, but > > > > nevertheless the question is a valid one. > > > > > > > > Can you imagine a situation where time is an Illusion? What does that > > > > mean. Well, it would mean that in your PERCEPTION events would progress > > > > and develop to your perception from the past to the present to the > > > > future. But since it's an illusion, it would mean that in truth nothing > > > > is changing at all and all events and seeming actions are perpetually > > > > fixed and immutable. > > > > > > Just because one doesn't see the entirety of something doesn't mean it's > > > an illusion. At the moment, I can only see the front side of my monitor, > > > and part of its supporting base. There's no illusion there either. > > > > > > Sylvia. > > > > It's a blurred illusion. > > okay.. > > so Time is an illusion. > > Time doesn't exist. > > The past > > doesn't exist. > > The future > > doesn't exist. > > That leaves us > > with the Present. > > Does the Present exist..now? > > Here and now? > > Right here? > > I'm here right now... > > where are you at? > > You're not Here.. > > you're over there! > > If you say you're here.. > > i say, No..you're over there.. > > you're not here..i'm here. > > What time is it Now? The past doesn't exist The future doesn't exist The present doesn't exist. The theory of relativity is not about Time The theory of relativity is not about Space The theory of relativity is about Gravity... it's about the stuff that holds everything together. time doesn't hold everything together and neither does space..cause neither one exist. So, if you put Gravity in a bottle and you light a match to it... what happens? Does it turn red or does it turn blue??