Path: csiph.com!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder01.blueworldhosting.com!news.glorb.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 01:05:17 -0500 Message-ID: <571DB3D5.5B8D@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2016 23:06:13 -0700 From: The Starmaker Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.atheism,rec.arts.sf.written,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,alt.astronomy Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 30 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 108.219.229.47 X-Trace: sv3-vUtoFZE8sPpC4xUceNB6Ue9dBMwBuJp7RSTVBupLvmd3l+9HLDe3A3Kc0ONWNzGhzKzRsfyXIe9T6sp!bY+0mLRw+LxISqdZraQayfLO7HX8t+efY4Lm+mVgc1kjvARU9Oq9dIRxrBLPR882Ol1do63Ku/B0!MQy2Q3Nd0z8= X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 2351 Xref: csiph.com alt.atheism:2095636 rec.arts.sf.written:438723 sci.physics:573036 sci.physics.relativity:382245 alt.astronomy:284310 William December Starr wrote: > > In article , > "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" said: > > > William December Starr wrote: > >> "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" said: > >> > >>> If God gives a crap about whether I believe in Him/Her/It, they'll > >>> have to show me directly, because they made sure I was raised in a > >>> way that made just believing in them without evidence (and old > >>> books without scientific backing aren't evidence) impossible. > >> > >> But: what evidence would be sufficient to convince you? I think > >> that logically it's impossible > > > > If God is literally omnipotent, He knows how to convince me. > > Did you mean "omniscient" there? > > > There will be some set of events and words that can do so, even if > > they're ones that no mortal could think of or arrange. > > Will there be? I think it hinges on the question of "Can God do > *anything*, or can he only do anything that's possible?" > > -- wds You mean can God make a rock so heavy that even He cannot pick it up????