Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!news.glorb.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 13:26:52 -0600 Message-ID: <56C61AFD.3C27@ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 11:26:53 -0800 From: The Starmaker Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written,alt.astronomy,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: GRAVITY...has not been proven to be true. References: <56C37C07.5882@ix.netcom.com> <56C4153A.3A1@ix.netcom.com> <56C4B116.7835@ix.netcom.com> <56C4FE70.1ADC@ix.netcom.com> <56C5789C.25C6@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 123 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 162.239.141.5 X-Trace: sv3-ZZqhUAb251hC2ir4YJsHudhtlxE+q+TOAyX9Xr2040naAf5FsfMeI4N+8XDN5CyRwhso/CdPi+HhS2Y!4FBeaQGYH3K/0WkHjOy3TA50rlUeWBWr8hAbP53wRiu0p2ZFFdSwFhE/WVn5fDbzrITKZYK+ylYy!79vF5xZJqw== X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 5740 Xref: csiph.com rec.arts.sf.written:433508 alt.astronomy:282252 sci.physics:554324 sci.physics.relativity:376484 benj wrote: > > On 02/18/2016 02:54 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > >> > >> Sam Wormley wrote: > >>> > >>> On 2/17/16 11:42 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>> I mean, if you haven't even prove that Gravity exist > >>> > >>> You saw a guy fall, therefore, gravity exists. > >>> > >>> You see satellites orbiting other bodies, therefore, gravity exists. > >>> > >>> You once got hit bu a falling apple, acorn or walnut, > >>> therefore, gravity exists. > >>> > >>> You have noted that big balls of gas and plasma exist using hydrogen > >>> into helium, therefore, gravity exists. > >>> > >>> The existence og gravitation or warped spacetime is not in question. > >> > >> You have no evidence that gravity exist. > >> > >> I'll ask you a question...is Gravity a Theory? > >> > >> : an idea that is suggested or presented as possibly true but that is not known or proven to be true > >> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/theory > >> > >> I'll ask you this question...is Gravity a Theory? Yes or No?? > >> > >> or > >> > >> Is there a theory called... The Theory of Gravity??? Si or No, senoir? > >> > >> Ja or nien? > > > > > > Just so everyone knows...a theory means; is not known or proven to be true. > > > > http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/theory > > > > > > (most of these science guys never read a dictionary) > > > > To be clear...a theory means; is not known or proven to be true. > > > > It doesn't make a difference if it's a Einstein theory...a theory means; is not known or proven to be true. > > > > The theory of Gravity is not known or proven to be true. > > > > Gravity waves, is not known or proven to be true. > > > > In other words...The theory of Gravity has not been proven to be true. > > > > > > Anybody tells you different, is lying to you. > > > > > > Why they lie? I don't know...maybe they're not in touch with reality. > > > > > > They'll try to fool you by putting an Einstein name next to the word theory, as if it makes it more true... > > but it doesn't matter whose theory it is...if it is a theory, it is not known or proven to be true. > > > > > > In other words Einstein theory of gravitation/gravity has not been proven to be true. > > > > > > The truth is, I don't even think anybody really knows what gravity is...or if it really exist. > > Starfaker you are the reason Libs flunk every science course they ever > took. Gravity obviously exists. Unlike you fantasy Lib arts crowd > science is based on measurements and observations not fantasy. So we > invite you (as we have invited HVAC who also does not believe in > gravity) to step off the roof of a multi-story building and report back > to us the results of your gravity-existence experiment. Jumping off a roof does not prove gravity is true or exist.. all it proves that people fall down. You can problably come up with a million alternative explanations why things fall down. I'm not intersted in arguments or explanations for why things fall down... It reads here: "an idea that is suggested or presented as possibly true but that is not known or proven to be true" http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/theory You don't like the definition...tough. The theory of evolution....not proven to be true. But who in the 'scientific community' is concerned about...truth??? > > The fine point is that one knows what has been measured. But that does > not "explain" anything. People like PBS and "professor" Wormley like to > say that Newton explained gravity. No such thing is true. Newton created > a law that works pretty well to predict what gravitational forces are > measured and what quantities regulate those forces. There is NO > explanation of any mechanism or reason why gravity works as it does. > It's pure description. > > Einstein improved those predictive laws to cover some more cases with > increased accuracy, but again there is no "explanation" or mechanism for > the effect provided. The so-called 'warping" of space-time is not an > explanation but pure mathematical bullshit. > > Nobody (at least in the unclassified world) knows what gravity is or > what the mechanism behind it is. That is truth. Being able to have a law > that describes the action of gravity is not an explanation no matter > what Wormley, Boinker, and HVAC say.