Path: csiph.com!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder01.blueworldhosting.com!border2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 23:28:21 -0600 Message-ID: <56C40510.40D7@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 21:28:48 -0800 From: The Starmaker Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.astronomy,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: GRAVITY... References: <56C37C07.5882@ix.netcom.com> <56C38B72.A1E@ix.netcom.com> <56C3A23C.EEE@ix.netcom.com> <56C3B6BA.3905@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 65 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 162.239.141.5 X-Trace: sv3-vQg8YJ93zLnaPpDvdfEPjAeXP7LNzND1CzM75T3VOw+hcYkXS2ecyL2NZPNTZaUeZ2hCM2LSaqAJOkz!gmUJSsabi6QZwVx5Md1re2wNNnf5QQViE2l/l7SvAKC84BEKsGxjoYpZaneofv4ScaM49pZHh/Wu!9+fYxi8Qug== X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 3202 Xref: csiph.com alt.astronomy:282201 sci.physics:553768 sci.physics.relativity:376379 Sam Wormley wrote: > > On 2/16/16 5:54 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > Sam Wormley wrote: > >> > >> On 2/16/16 4:27 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>> Sam Wormley wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On 2/16/16 2:49 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>> Sam Wormley wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 2/16/16 1:44 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>>>> i saw > >>>>>>> a person > >>>>>>> fall down.. > >>>>>>> and i > >>>>>>> wondered to > >>>>>>> myself... > >>>>>>> how many planets > >>>>>>> were involved? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Every bit of momentum-energy was involved, but not all significantly. > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Are you saying Gravity contains...energy??? > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> No... > >>>> According to general relativity, our best model of gravitation, mass, > >>>> mass in motion and energy (momentum-energy) warp spacetime resulting > >>>> in what we call gravitation. > >>> > >>> > >>> There is no such word as "momentum-energy". > >>> > >> > >> It's routinely used in general relativity textbooks. And it is much > >> easier than saying mass, mass in motion and energy. > >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy–momentum_relation > >> > >> E^2 = (mc^2)^2 + (pc)^2 > >> > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy%E2%80%93momentum_relation > > > > Energy–momentum_relation or "momentum-energy" > > > > has nothing to do with Gravity! > > > > Even some school kids know the mass and energy warp spacetime and that > warped spacetime tells mass how to move (gravity) > > "Gravity is not a foreign and physical force transmitted through space > and time. It is a manifestation of the curvature of spacetime." > That, in a nutshell, is Einstein's theory. > "manifestation"???? sounds too religious to me... manifestation is not physics, it's metaphysical...physcology.