Path: csiph.com!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder01.blueworldhosting.com!news.glorb.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 13:22:13 -0600 Message-ID: <56842EEA.2034@ix.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 11:22:18 -0800 From: The Starmaker Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Is Einstein's Relativity Science? References: <20151228181331.52cbcdc1b1adf4a24b221fe6@g{oogle}mail.com> <429892e7-9c02-40a3-ab99-51fdadf4eed2@googlegroups.com> <20151229185059.5965e25f3170bc0fbc93b730@g{oogle}mail.com> <7281546d-bf2c-4160-b845-e2375142770e@googlegroups.com> <20151230134827.c7a719254458a7a8f45902bb@g{oogle}mail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 78 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 162.239.141.5 X-Trace: sv3-YzX74BwxPHM6OhbNjMDXlTtMswcAVQPshwVFf34sGA9FNJd2QAqSZT9VHQtVf+Y1NxULQ091Wh2iOS0!hZuj8rKolvM3z4fjoqMxTnPx3taum45YwiKnsg8YTl95QopfMB91iIC8XKGBv62wO01NSFb1FmCD!Fd2+y98iyQ== X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 3712 Xref: csiph.com sci.physics.relativity:372940 Anton Shepelev wrote: > > Koobee Wublee: > > > Koobee Wublee would like to write the Lorentz > > transform as the following where the unprimed > > frame is using coordinate system (t, x, y, z) to > > describe (thus observe) an event, and at the same > > time, the primed frame is using coordinate system > > (t', x', dy', dz') to describe the same event. > > > > > > ** c dt' = (c dt - v dx) / sqrt(1 - v^2 / c^2) > > ** dx' = (dx - v dt) / sqrt(1 - v^2 / c^2) > > ** dy' = dy > > ** dz' = dz > > > > [...] Say the twins are A and B. When A is ob- > > serving B, > > > > ** dt_AB sqrt(1 - B'^2) = dt_BB > > > > Or > > > > ** dt_AB = dt_BB / sqrt(1 - B'^2) > > > > Where > > > > ** A = primed observing the event > > ** B = unprimed also observing the event which is itself > > ** dt_AB = time at B as observed by A > > ** dt_BB = time at B > > > > When B is observing A, > > > > ** dt_AA = dt_BA sqrt(1 - B^2) = dt_BA sqrt(1 - B'^2) > > > > Or > > > > ** dt_BA = dt_AA / sqrt(1 - B^2) = dt_AA / sqrt(1 - B'^2) > > > > Where > > > > ** A = primed also observing the event which is itself > > ** B = unprimed observing the event > > ** dt_AA = time at A > > ** dt_BA = time at A as observed by B > > ** B^2 = B'^2 > > > > To sum up, we have > > > > ** dt_AB = dt_BB / sqrt(1 - B^2) > > ** dt_BA = dt_AA / sqrt(1 - B^2) > > > > Thus, the contradiction to the Twin paradox is ab- > > solutely fatal to the religion of relativity. Af- > > ter brainstorming wishing for a divine interven- > > tion, the Einstein dingleberries had to create a > > new law of physics that divinely apply only to > > non-inertial frames of reference, but that is to- > > tal bullshit. > > You have introduced two inertial frames of refer- > ence, in which case yes, the clocks in each frame > will seem to tick slower to an observer in the other > frame. There is no contradiction in that as long as > the two clocks are spatially separated. Okay, one item at a time... When, I repeat...'When' does the clock tick slower? For those that don't know the definition of "When".. https://www.google.com/#q=define+when So the question is, 'When' does the clock tick slower?