Path: csiph.com!au2pb.net!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder01.blueworldhosting.com!border2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2015 00:46:18 -0500 Message-ID: <55EFC7BF.5E72@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2015 22:46:39 -0700 From: The Starmaker Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.atheism,rec.arts.sf.written,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. References: <1dt2ualali2a9p1buvmbnv8nk6n4huqka1@4ax.com> <55E354C9.3D3A@ix.netcom.com> <55E74B6A.7339@ix.netcom.com> <55E7C949.4DA9@ix.netcom.com> <55E94C53.43FF@ix.netcom.com> <55EE8B6D.6A9F@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 79 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 45.49.183.72 X-Trace: sv3-ItG41iJy9FJwq1Heb0sTLFKveFEpkz7TIl+g2Jf8fBujbeMSqvLpbomTkmc2tuh6WznjwqHDV/iz95G!XWArrBeOZF875BaIvhp7d6a57BR5DOO9QYWkTog+uBKsyASOHGVHNbK+z0d4LF5qAISk8tdNbjNv!KrZo/tc8 X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 3806 Xref: csiph.com alt.atheism:1979327 rec.arts.sf.written:422292 sci.physics:519912 sci.physics.relativity:363534 Olrik wrote: > > Le 2015-09-08 03:17, The Starmaker a écrit : > > The Starmaker wrote: > >> > >> The Starmaker wrote: > >>> > >>> The Starmaker wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Most atheist > >>>> believe > >>>> the universe is > >>>> mathematical. > >>>> > >>>> I mean, they actually > >>>> believe the universe is > >>>> Mathematical. > >>>> > >>>> But, if i go > >>>> to the moon > >>>> and look around.. > >>>> i don't see any mathematics. > >>>> > >>>> i don't see any...numbers. > >>>> > >>>> If i go to Mars > >>>> > >>>> i don't see any mathematics. > >>>> > >>>> i don't see any...numbers. > >>>> > >>>> Where is this > >>>> mathematics > >>>> they are seeing? > >>>> > >>>> Is it hidden?? > >>>> > >>>> Because, it only exist in their mind. > >>>> > >>>> Mathematics is based on belief, not science. > >>>> > >>>> Atheist believe in the hidden, the unseen.. > >>> > >>> Let me go back and look at the picture of Mars...I could've sworn I saw > >>> 36-26-36. > >> > >> no, it's just a rock.. > >> > >> There's gotta be somewhere in the universe where math or numbers can be found? It's hiding somewhere, but where?? > >> > >> Atheist scientists seem to believe the universe is mathematical...but I don't see any numbers in the sky. > >> > >> What planet is it on? Maybe on a atsteroid or comet maybe... > >> > >> What place is this ...mathematics in? > >> > >> It has to be...somewhere? > >> > >> Pluto?? > >> > >> I need to write a book, The Mathematical Delusion... > >> > >> It's a book about a group of people on earth who believe that the universe is mathematical but they have no > >> proof that it exist anywhere else except in their own mind. > > > > > > > > and of course if you believe the universe is mathematical, then you must > > believe there is a ...Mathematician. > > If you believe the universe had a creator, then the creator needs to > have been created. It's simple logic. A creator is only one person. Before God created the universe... He did not exist.