Path: csiph.com!optima2.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.glorb.com!peer03.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 01:38:06 -0500 Message-ID: <55E3F666.7E90@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 23:38:30 -0700 From: The Starmaker Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.atheism,rec.arts.sf.written,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. References: <1dt2ualali2a9p1buvmbnv8nk6n4huqka1@4ax.com> <55E354C9.3D3A@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 29 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 45.49.183.72 X-Trace: sv3-ksgbSvDDjjj2oegsFiFc7VRXcQKZv0CcYg5DgtlWnNUv1qKY+F/S0GmftHO4qMMOn7ZRgLhqZSAIUq7!959apFw+zobdGX3sUL5YfICRNalZJePk5oixTuc/F8hc18Zf/9BIfRRIG8JkNn3+TNZw28NuF9qt!Q1DUrv0Q X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 2890 X-Received-Bytes: 3002 X-Received-Body-CRC: 3234031031 Xref: csiph.com alt.atheism:1973526 rec.arts.sf.written:421612 sci.physics:518077 sci.physics.relativity:362434 The Starmaker wrote: > > Attila < wrote: > > > > On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 08:40:43 -0400, niunian in > > alt.atheism with message-id wrote: > > > > > "If a tree fell down in the > > >forest and no one was around, did it make a sound?" It was meant to test > > >the student's understanding about the reality. If you answer yes, it > > >shows you have no understanding about Buddhist philosophy. If you answer > > >no, then you have contradicted with the law of nature. The correct > > >answer, as I have given you, is not sure. > > > > If a tree falls it creates a disturbance in the air. That is > > unavoidable. A disturbance sets up waves in the air in which pressure > > varies according to specific physical laws. These waves are defined > > as sound. It doesn't matter if anyone is there to hear them or not. > > They will be created by every such disturbance. > > > > In fact, if a recorder is present that recorder will make a record of > > the sound even though no one is there to hear it. And that record > > will exist whether it is ever heard by anyone or not. > > If no one is there to hear the sound, it doesn't make a sound. In other words, tape recorders don't have ears, so they cannot hear sounds.