Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design,sci.physics,sci.space.policy,rec.arts.sf.science Subject: Re: Ion drive for aircraft imminent. Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2016 21:09:09 -0000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 26 Sender: Jim Pennino Message-ID: References: <5ec5d120-948f-4013-a835-cd5ae4e4dd19@googlegroups.com> Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="01a801243fbe7fc139795db2637050d9"; logging-data="11409"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+IG7QjPWJ+nQ7VkHYlPW/J" User-Agent: tin/2.2.1-20140504 ("Tober an Righ") (UNIX) (SunOS/5.10 (i86pc)) Cancel-Lock: sha1:3NzmgteM8ddc+x4LeJtWCbb3Ap8= Xref: csiph.com sci.electronics.design:433905 sci.physics:603772 sci.space.policy:58677 rec.arts.sf.science:25490 In sci.physics Robert Clark wrote: > It's analogous to ion drive in that it ionizes a gas then uses electric > fields to direct the charged gas molecules backwards to provide thrust. > > For ion space drives you want the propellant to accelerate to high speed to > achieve high exhaust velocity. This means you can achieve high speed for the > spacecraft with a small amount of propellant according to the rocket > equation. This requires though a high amount of power to generate those high > exhaust speeds. > > For the corresponding air vehicle propulsion you don't want the air > accelerated speeds to be high because you would be going at slow speed for > the vehicle or just hovering. This can generate higher thrust with a reduced > exhaust velocity. The power required to fly by aircraft is the same no matter the motive source. A small 4 place aircraft typically has about a 140 kW engine, a small 2 place helicopter double that. -- Jim Pennino