Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Gerhard Hoffmann Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Running out of ideas: stability, bootstrap Date: Sun, 28 May 2017 17:11:52 +0200 Lines: 60 Message-ID: Reply-To: ghf@hoffmann-hochfrequenz.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net VNLF9CCHu+lP/NmdGtBZmADbAxVQQsyk6D3EjqX3/WQ7yDj/7x Cancel-Lock: sha1:4ndskeVqxfog5DUC9G36Wg+Fds8= X-Mozilla-News-Host: news://News.Individual.DE:119 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.1.1 Content-Language: en-GB Xref: csiph.com sci.electronics.design:462075 Hi, all, we had a bank holiday here, nicely positioned close to the weekend and I took the free time to play with my multi-IF3601 low noise amplifier. That was not so funny because it features a negative input impedance over most frequencies, so with a suitable inductance on the input it makes a stable oscillator. Some observations: - Zin is negative also with the feedback loop cut - Choice op op amp does not matter: ADA4898 vs. THS4022 - There is no coupling via the bias system; base bias used to have a 2nd current source that shared the BAV99 string; that could produce startup problems (solved) - type of cascode transistor did not make much of a difference, using an Infineon BFQ19S instead of FZT851/ZXT690B looked slightly better, but not good enough. - Leaving the cascode transistor out remedied the situation, but I need the cascode transistor to introduce the bootstrap to eliminate Cgd of the paralleled FETs. - The THS4022 suppresses the Miller effect quite nicely at least to 100 KHz, but the unmultiplied Cgate-drain is still easily a nF of more. - The obvious solution of gate stoppers does not make sense because of the noise. A resistor in the base lead of the cascode makes things worse; 6R8 between the drains and the cascode emitter made no difference. (could not use more without messing up the DC operating point, it also would interfere with the bootstrap) - ferrite beads in the gates do exactly nothing. circuit snippet is at < https://www.flickr.com/photos/137684711@N07/34904768906/in/album-72157682404684680/ > Currently, there are 4 FETs in parallel. Does the combined expertise of the group have any idea on how to stabilize the cascode or an alternative way to introduce the bootstrap? Best regards, Gerhard