Path: csiph.com!news.mixmin.net!news.unit0.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Joerg Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Very slightly OT: Circuit breaker compatibility Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2017 07:42:58 -0700 Lines: 56 Message-ID: References: <3692619c-3c8b-4fbd-b019-cd5365f4f3ea@googlegroups.com> <9i3hccla3gqonkkokusq4gu1p5ijsfhi2f@4ax.com> <7gnjcc1kak2ut2aj4htc9kg7khe4vnq2ab@4ax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net 74b4UH8RiL+Uj5hWM5Fq+Adz/HZiJJ4eUxCRiFqc7jjr/Wpcr/ Cancel-Lock: sha1:FgkPCk339QzVVffgx16uKkIgDXk= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.6) Gecko/20070728 Thunderbird/2.0.0.6 Mnenhy/0.7.6.666 In-Reply-To: Xref: csiph.com sci.electronics.design:452426 On 2017-03-17 19:35, krw@notreal.com wrote: > On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 16:54:15 -0700, Joerg > wrote: > >> On 2017-03-16 17:36, krw@notreal.com wrote: >>> On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 08:03:58 -0700, Joerg >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2017-03-15 17:38, krw@notreal.com wrote: >>>>> On Wed, 15 Mar 2017 15:11:05 -0700 (PDT), kevin93 >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at 5:53:36 AM UTC-7, tabb...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>> ... >>>>>>> Again electric blankets kill more people than all other household appliances put together. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> NT >>>>>> >>>>>> Although it seems that the major issue is causing fires rather than electrocution. (at least form my quick perusal via Google). >>>>> >>>>> Exactly. Arc-fault interruptors address this problem. Ground Fault >>>>> interrupters don't to squat. >>>>> >>>> >>>> You have never been in the home of a frail elderly person who gets by on >>>> a measly social security check and with whatever they've already got? >>>> Including that heating blanket from the 70's that's already totally >>>> frayed but "it still works"? >>> >>> You still don't get it. The problem with electric blankes is *FIRE*, >>> not electicution. Even if it were, there is no ground around to trip >>> a GFCI. Ergo, a GFCI is completely useless in this situation. >>> >> >> Yeah, right ... >> >> http://www.greaterkashmir.com/news/kashmir/short-circuit-in-electric-blanket-kills-senior-kashmir-doctor/234344.html > > So the great Joerg knows how to use Google. Wow! BTW, where did it > say anything about L-E? > No but it's obvious what happened. It was just one example and that one was a fatality which could most likely have been avoided had there been GFCI protection. Other cases result is a shock followed by a bad fall, meaning ER or worse. Again, when you are caring or volunteering for elderly people you'll find all sorts of hazardous stuff and a common one if worn out electric blanket. "Oh, don't worry, this still has years of life in it". Taking that away from an old guy is about as difficult as taking the car keys away. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/