Path: csiph.com!1.us.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!1.eu.feeder.erje.net!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!news.unit0.net!news.panservice.it!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Brian Newsgroups: linux.debian.user Subject: Re: network setup Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 22:10:03 +0100 Message-ID: References: X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-user-request@lists.debian.org Tue Dec 13 21:03:02 2016 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.999 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate:hard: -7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Backscatter: 123456789 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/715260 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/13122016205017.42d4ac69f090@desktop.copernicus.org.uk Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 41 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 21:02:45 +0000 X-Original-Message-ID: <13122016205017.42d4ac69f090@desktop.copernicus.org.uk> X-Original-References: <20161211104708.158cd71a@whynot.keepingdreams.org> <20161213131811.GA22537@tuxteam.de> <20161213133604.5ysx2lgsgmzqo337@darac.org.uk> <20161213134047.GA23378@tuxteam.de> <20161213194439.GN12628@copernicus.org.uk> <912d6151-2dbf-6ae3-e959-e7b4274530e4@rail.eu.org> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.user:175688 On Tue 13 Dec 2016 at 20:48:46 +0100, Erwan David wrote: > Le 12/13/2016 à 20:44, Brian a écrit : > > On Tue 13 Dec 2016 at 14:40:47 +0100, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > >> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 01:36:05PM +0000, Darac Marjal wrote: > >> > >> [...] > >> > >>> https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ > >>> lists three options: > >> > >> Thanks! > > > > For someone who has been using Debian for many years the position you > > expound is understandable and viable to support. Someone who is used to > > eth0 and wlan0 for interface names is bound to sit up and take notice > > when they change to something which is strange and doesn't exactly stick > > in the memory. > > > > But remember new users; does it really matter to them? They have no > > personal history to point to. As you point out, the engineering > > advantages are unarguable. And after all, there are three options which > > can be employed to get something you are not given. That's not bad as > > things go. > > > > Do you think eno167778 will be more useful than eth0 to a new user ? > (yes I've seen the name for the only NIC of a machine) It is no more nor more less useful than eth0 in the sense that networking works for them. Do you think a new user is going to react in horror to one rather than the other? My God, why must I use eno167778, he will say? I must change this to something I like. connection0 looks good. And so he can. So where's the problem? -- Brian.