Path: csiph.com!goblin1!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!aioe.org!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Reco Newsgroups: linux.debian.user Subject: Re: Deleting i386 packages Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2015 12:30:01 +0200 Message-ID: References: X-Original-To: debian-user@lists.debian.org X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-user-request@lists.debian.org Thu Sep 24 10:25:04 2015 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.799 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: NOT_IN_SBL_XBL_SPAMHAUS=-1.5 NOT_IN_BL_NJABL=-1.5 CL_IP_EQ_HELO_IP=-2 (check from: .gmail. - helo: .mail-la0-x22f.google. - helo-domain: .google.) FROM/MX_MATCHES_HELO(DOMAIN)=-2; rate: -7 Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=j1HKOb4Xo1RbVHrFJm7K3vPgtwCALo77GrZoqbS/AmU=; b=Kpy9O9bpjWACv1NzdLTqwax9XWiogyx7F7Zsrji4oXa2m2BIatucBdn0lnKYA02OVF zthCkZtQKQhNgxfGaT8Rc6X+9qWROXMAPZpR2Yo4euMEvGrVOtpv3Vg/514pEojauOXe U4t1c+XWZSO2F2+hI5x2zMAJs0R3aVrTxE7UntTKt8fv1Z9n6E9cF6yFRB5RKTFwLb7P 9leUSRS0+Sb/fGkl2KVuK5h/U9YVihUYute+EGRs8Hhksnhh8V01a7W+DQ7f+cwWjL8e Ju1vQo4ZDFagrNkvU0eNtfBcDA0zoYKsLORPpTb3gTAoanZzsEJy3/vsUkvMD0M/sv1V 6krA== X-Received: by 10.152.45.70 with SMTP id k6mr13124009lam.113.1443090288312; Thu, 24 Sep 2015 03:24:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/697651 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/20150924102444.GA32670@x101h Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 46 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2015 13:24:45 +0300 X-Original-Message-ID: <20150924102444.GA32670@x101h> X-Original-References: <1b8u7zqh06.fsf@pfeifferfamily.net> <20150922064929.GA8335@x101h> <20150922123827.GA15793@x101h> <560156C0.2080300@zen.co.uk> <20150922140144.GA19171@x101h> <56037DD0.7090102@ngtech.co.il> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.user:158206 Hi. On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 07:36:32AM +0300, Eliezer Croitoru wrote: > I will not argue since truth can be seen from more then one side. > Proprietary software usage is normal in all cases. No surprise in such position here, since apparently you're using Windows. And you came to the wrong place to promote such view of things. But I disagree with you. It boils down to the question of control. As long as you cannot change the software in question if needed - you're not in control. They do. As for 'all cases': Is it OK to do banking using non-free software? Is it OK to trust healthcare of personal information to non-free software? > It is as dangerous as the usage of open source software. No it's more dangerous. See above about control. > It might limit but it gives something that not all open source software can > give. Which is? What's that magical thing? > It doesn't limit freedom but just a mere functionality "limit" like any > other software that exists and will exist ever. No. Existence or absence of functionality is the question of change. With the free software you can make the needed change. With the non-free software you cannot. > Software is Software and if someone requires something it doesn't matter if > it fits the needs. Nope. Non-free software usually comes with restrictions in field of usage or other completely artificial restrictions. Reco