Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: David Christensen Newsgroups: linux.debian.user Subject: Re: Firefox alternatives? Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2024 06:30:01 +0100 Message-ID: References: X-Original-To: debian-user@lists.debian.org X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-user-request@lists.debian.org Thu Dec 12 05:29:00 2024 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.198 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate: -4.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/817893 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/270f940d-29ac-4081-a284-8b41c44236ba@holgerdanske.com Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 38 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2024 21:28:28 -0800 X-Original-Message-ID: <270f940d-29ac-4081-a284-8b41c44236ba@holgerdanske.com> X-Original-References: <34fbaf418b8b9c621e76cd72f4ee343dfb536bd1.camel.ref@sbcglobal.net> <34fbaf418b8b9c621e76cd72f4ee343dfb536bd1.camel@sbcglobal.net> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.user:275559 On 12/11/24 12:08, Van Snyder wrote: > After Firefox has been running for a few days my Debian 12.5 gets > really slow. The mouse jerks when it works at all. It takes a minute or > two for wndows to close or top. At the moment, Firefox has 19 processes > running. Memory is half full, and swap is about 10% used. When I kill > Firefox and restart, things go back to normal for a few hours. > > What alternatives that aren't such pigs do you recommend? My current daily driver is a Dell PowerEdge T30 with a Xeon E3-1225 v5 processor, 2 @ 8 GB ECC RAM in dual channel mode, and an Intel SSD 520 Series 60 GB: 2024-12-11 21:21:18 dpchrist@laalaa ~ $ cat /etc/debian_version; uname -a; dpkg-query --show xfce4; dpkg-query --show firefox-esr 11.11 Linux laalaa 5.10.0-33-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.226-1 (2024-10-03) x86_64 GNU/Linux xfce4 4.16 firefox-esr 128.5.0esr-1~deb11u1 The desktop usage experience is more than satisfactory. I have installed the NoScript extension in Firefox. I typically enable only enough JavaScript to get a site working. YouTube recently changed their site such that videos stall after about a minute if google.com is blocked. When I enabled google.com, Firefox became very sluggish. The problem is not Firefox, the problem is corporations that want to monetize WWW users via JavaScript. David