Path: csiph.com!1.us.feeder.erje.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Andy Smith Newsgroups: linux.debian.user Subject: Postel's Law (Was Re: Inclusive terminology (instead of master/slave) for network bonding/LACP) Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2024 22:40:01 +0100 Message-ID: References: X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-user-request@lists.debian.org Sat Feb 24 21:31:24 2024 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.81 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FOURLA=0.1, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate:hard: -4.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Openpgp: id=BF15490B; url=http://strugglers.net/~andy/pubkey.asc X-URL: http://strugglers.net/wiki/User:Andy X-Sa-Exim-Connect-IP: X-Sa-Exim-Mail-From: andy@strugglers.net X-Sa-Exim-Scanned: No (on mail.bitfolk.com); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/809704 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/ZdpgF0gptlTXLgyR@mail.bitfolk.com Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 30 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2024 21:31:03 +0000 X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-References: <20240223110751.1108c2b7@dorfdsl.de> <20240223175159.fej4xhqoxt5tzarv@randomstring.org> <20240223194930.39cef11c@dorfdsl.de> <87le7a14v0.fsf@dataswamp.org> <874jdy9dww.fsf@dataswamp.org> <65D9F741.7030405@fastmail.fm> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.user:267791 Hi, On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 04:54:12PM +0000, Alain D D Williams wrote: > I sometimes think that something similar to Postel's Law but applied to human > interactions would be useful. However that is wishful thinking The basic assumption that people mean well is how con artists and high pressure sales tactics have operated since the dawn of communication ("Oh, you can't afford the vacuum cleaner? I really shouldn't, but let me just call my boss because I really want to help you…"). Although at least with con artists there is the other thing of "can't con an honest John". I'm not saying DON'T give people the benefit of the doubt, but just always be aware that when you do there will be people who take advantage of that. Turning back more to protocol design, we have spent decades walking back Postel's Law as we find more and more ways that being liberal in what our software accepts is untenable in the face of a hostile Internet. Thanks, Andy -- https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting