Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Keith Bainbridge Newsgroups: linux.debian.user Subject: Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2024 07:40:01 +0200 Message-ID: References: X-Original-To: debian-user@lists.debian.org X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-user-request@lists.debian.org Sun Jun 23 05:35:39 2024 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.209 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, FREEMAIL_REPLYTO=1, GMAIL=1, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate: -5.5 X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yymrchi37J7OxYIhZaGLkk2XVM4Aip2aDOAaU+THvXgvaHk8sYS G1nBS1NjyJerAlAtXku11XWB3LGZ+fs8U2YY+QjhCTUEabzY++DMzoU92nQK X-Google-SMTP-Source: AGHT+IHGLLuH8oVq8m8IoqxP1dNmkCa9sgrWSukzSf+/1U/Jj+lugIau6Fqbn9NgBbJeSuOzOOxK4g== X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:db03:b0:1f6:7e5f:5a51 with SMTP id d9443c01a7336-1fa23ee549fmr14509115ad.36.1719120921596; Sat, 22 Jun 2024 22:35:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Thunderbird Daily Content-Language: en-US Reply-To: keithrbau@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/812464 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/3b64c6d3-1e91-45e0-9144-b603e61cf41a@gmail.com Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 48 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2024 15:35:14 +1000 X-Original-Message-ID: <3b64c6d3-1e91-45e0-9144-b603e61cf41a@gmail.com> X-Original-References: Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.user:270400 On 23/6/24 14:25, David Wright wrote: > On Sun 23 Jun 2024 at 12:52:55 (+1000), Keith Bainbridge wrote: > >> Have you ever pondered why the 'international date line' is so convoluted? > > Only on the odd occasion when an area decides to cross it, for > whatever reason. Like Samoa recently. And before that, the > creation of Pacific/Kiritimati (+14:00), which became a press > story at the start of the new millennium. > +14:00?? I've only ever heard of maxima of +/- 12:00. But see below >> As for odd time zones, we have a narrow one, somewhere between the >> West Australian border (with Sth Aust) and the first notable town on >> the road West - Norseman. It's 45 mins different from Sth Aust and the >> a further 45 mins to main stream West Aust. There might be 10,000 >> people live within it. > > $ TZ=Pacific/Kiritamati date; TZ=Australia/Eucla date > Sun Jun 23 04:24:54 Pacific 2024 > Sun Jun 23 13:09:54 +0845 2024 > $ > So Eucla: Sun Jun 23 13:09:54 would be UTC: Sun Jun 23 04:24:54 How do we get that time in the middle of the Pacific? Surely it would be Sat Jun22 18:24:54 And then I see a LOT of discussion on my suggestion about how MUA format the send time when people reply. I'll get back to that later. > Cheers, > David. > -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keithrbau@gmail.com keith.bainbridge.3216@gmail.com +61 (0)447 667 468 UTC + 10:00