Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed9.news.xs4all.nl!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Andy Smith Newsgroups: linux.debian.user Subject: Re: Slightly off-topic: anybody know of a way to keep one's Debian User List posts from failing DMARC? Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2021 23:10:02 +0200 Message-ID: References: X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-user-request@lists.debian.org Wed Jun 9 21:06:01 2021 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.6 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FOURLA=0.1, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate: -4.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Openpgp: id=BF15490B; url=http://strugglers.net/~andy/pubkey.asc X-URL: http://strugglers.net/wiki/User:Andy User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170113 (1.7.2) X-Sa-Exim-Connect-IP: X-Sa-Exim-Mail-From: andy@strugglers.net X-Sa-Exim-Scanned: No (on mail.bitfolk.com); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/776534 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/20210609210543.vexi46ywhutixi45@bitfolk.com Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 30 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2021 21:05:43 +0000 X-Original-Message-ID: <20210609210543.vexi46ywhutixi45@bitfolk.com> X-Original-References: <7a85867b-8512-fd40-a3f6-42a45456b118@touchtonecorp.com> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.user:235962 Hello, On Wed, Jun 09, 2021 at 09:58:13AM -0700, James H. H. Lampert wrote: > I'm told that the Debian List Server doesn't rewrite "From" > headers for DMARC-enabled senders, and neither does it do anything > else to handle DMARC-enabled senders. Correct, so the SPF test will always fail as the list pretends to be your domain when it sends out mail from you. But the DKIM test can still pass, because the Debian list software does not alter the body of your mail or any of the headers you are likely to sign with DKIM. And indeed, your email that I am replying to was a DKIM pass and thus would be a DMARC pass as only one of the two is needed. Many mailing lists modify the body, e.g. to prepend tags to the subject and/or to append a footer with list information. These mailing lists can never pass DKIM because the mail content is signed. Their only option if they care about a DMARC pass is to rewrite the sender address so that their mail comes from their own domain, then they can make SPF and DKIM pass and alter the content as they like. You will see many DMARC failures from such mailing lists. Cheers, Andy -- https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting