Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed8.news.xs4all.nl!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Jeremy Hendricks Newsgroups: linux.debian.user Subject: Re: A bug in Vim, in Mate Terminal or in Debian 11? Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 03:50:02 +0200 Message-ID: References: X-Original-To: Dedeco Balaco X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-user-request@lists.debian.org Sun Sep 19 01:49:38 2021 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.849 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FOURLA=0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, FREEMAIL_REPLY=1, HTML_MESSAGE=2, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate: -5.5 X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5316pv48Ynws6uAWVDnbQAFAPmrj9GIp9gRyZ0Cbt2zhvV+cuDgn 7Djn38UHovEUK2oUF6zTAlinSpHcYxjhgljI04gtiCkFAoEC+g== X-Google-SMTP-Source: ABdhPJyKqbYkg58uYUXxcdxUMDjQUS3euJnuDtv1J8Fyor6t3nOzIIIrYvyw9quHomkQ9UDY+U3yinyWcHzenIOO5TM= X-Received: by 2002:a5e:d711:: with SMTP id v17mr6429567iom.93.1632016161311; Sat, 18 Sep 2021 18:49:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000009010f205cc4f5f5e" X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/780844 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/CAGAaCPDAbkmGxGVJFMG6-+F7XuckXr_7ZRxmosXNmdCfWDxx8w@mail.gmail.com Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 161 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org X-Original-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2021 21:49:10 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-References: <5b14cd79-600d-5dc2-245a-25b612f066e8@yahoo.com> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.user:240129 --0000000000009010f205cc4f5f5e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I apologize for assuming you upgraded from 9 to 11 directly (skipping 10). It=E2=80=99s a common misconception that is acceptable. On Sat, Sep 18, 2021 at 9:46 PM Dedeco Balaco wrote: > I did not leap any release. I did everything correctly, step by step. > > The issue is not being reprodutible. I do not find a clear condition to > make it happen. Searching about your suggestion, I found that vim has a > few very important arguments, where 2 of them interest me a lot, to > isolate this issue (I guess): > > $ vim -u NORC # does not load any RC file, global or user's > > $ vim -u NONE # does not load any RC file, and also no plugin > > More information can be found in vim man page, and inside vim: > > :h initialization > > > Em 18/09/2021 22:27, Jeremy Hendricks escreveu: > > Generally it=E2=80=99s not recommended to leap frog over releases and y= ou should > > upgrade in order (Ex. From 9 to 10). I suspect you might need to delete > > some of the config files in your home directory (rename them it .bak) a= s > > the version of vim, etc might be considerable different from 9 to 11 an= d > > might have odd results. I=E2=80=99d recommend first renaming .vimrc to > > .vimrc.bak and see if that fixes it. > > > > The next step might be to rename the config files for the mate-terminal > > and test to see if it=E2=80=99s fixed. > > > > On Sat, Sep 18, 2021 at 9:15 PM Dedeco Balaco > > wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I recently upgraded my Debian 9 to Debian 11. But there are strange > > or wrong things happening right now, that did not exist before. > > > > My window manager is Mate Desktop. The terminal i most use is its > > own. And i use vim a lot, and i basically never use gvim, i prefer > > it through a terminal window. > > > > Each mate-terminal window can have several tabs in it. I use this > > feature a lot too. Each tab has its own title, which works pretty > > fine. There are several programs that change the title shown while > > they run. > > > > Vim is one of these programs. While it is running, the terminal > > title shows the name of the file currently being edited, and the > > number of files that was opened with it, when it was launched. > > > > After the upgrade, when i quit vim, the terminal title becomes > > empty, instead of returning to the default title "Terminal". > > > > Why is this happening? A bug in Vim? In mate-terminal? Or in Debian > 11? > > > > --0000000000009010f205cc4f5f5e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I apologize for assuming you upgraded from 9 to 11 direct= ly (skipping 10). It=E2=80=99s a common misconception that is acceptable.

On Sat, Sep 18, 2021 at 9:46 PM Dedeco Balaco <dedeco.balaco@yahoo.com> wrote:
I did not leap any release. I did everything corre= ctly, step by step.

The issue is not being reprodutible. I do not find a clear condition to
make it happen. Searching about your suggestion, I found that vim has a
few very important arguments, where 2 of them interest me a lot, to
isolate this issue (I guess):

$ vim -u NORC=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0# does not load any RC file, global or use= r's

$ vim -u NONE=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0# does not load any RC file, and also no p= lugin

More information can be found in vim man page, and inside vim:

:h initialization


Em 18/09/2021 22:27, Jeremy Hendricks escreveu:
> Generally it=E2=80=99s not recommended to leap frog over releases and = you should
> upgrade in order (Ex. From 9 to 10). I suspect you might need to delet= e
> some of the config files in your home directory (rename them it .bak) = as
> the version of vim, etc might be considerable different from 9 to 11 a= nd
> might have odd results. I=E2=80=99d recommend first renaming .vimrc to=
> .vimrc.bak and see if that fixes it.
>
> The next step might be to rename the config files for the mate-termina= l
> and test to see if it=E2=80=99s fixed.
>
> On Sat, Sep 18, 2021 at 9:15 PM Dedeco Balaco <dedeco.balaco@yahoo.com
> <mailto:dedeco.balaco@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Hello,
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I recently upgraded my Debian 9 to Debian 11. But t= here are strange
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0or wrong things happening right now, that did not e= xist before.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0My window manager is Mate Desktop. The terminal i m= ost use is its
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0own. And i use vim a lot, and i basically never use= gvim, i prefer
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0it through a terminal window.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Each mate-terminal window can have several tabs in = it. I use this
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0feature a lot too. Each tab has its own title, whic= h works pretty
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0fine. There are several programs that change the ti= tle shown while
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0they run.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Vim is one of these programs. While it is running, = the terminal
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0title shows the name of the file currently being ed= ited, and the
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0number of files that was opened with it, when it wa= s launched.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0After the upgrade, when i quit vim, the terminal ti= tle becomes
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0empty, instead of returning to the default title &q= uot;Terminal".
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Why is this happening? A bug in Vim? In mate-termin= al? Or in Debian 11?
>

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