Path: csiph.com!aioe.org!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: rhkramer@gmail.com Newsgroups: linux.debian.user Subject: Re: Zoom- best practice? Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2020 17:10:01 +0200 Message-ID: References: X-Original-To: debian-user@lists.debian.org X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-user-request@lists.debian.org Tue Jun 9 15:00:39 2020 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.199 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate: -5.5 Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=k53nHVzAyYL9B1uUQiI/hUR5WPYbpPBOHrA364026c0=; b=TJZktscC6ePHQCcBT+f+pxXiwmwI65LFeSMSpiQlkb/wW5YNyMGzp363dN1AnhmS3Z qlJqSxxNlVlIk5zwpoK/0SvkPCZGCnZM6fEvw5Ytyx5alV9F3xhTR89XB0NgkKeKyA/1 PKQO6nJO3vJZCtYIXSnivmtyAHfqqPzsrJGLFjyX83sZzSmMeTH7M/NssPpe0lSkCpsq d7izPjh8adO6SIAmlH5GZ862j3U7WYNUg4Ip+40cALVPMIUlcDuPpeWmMBXqJIe61tNn 0C2Zn492fIdAeJNLszCZOLt/n21ZrrnTygRaXiqKulcJ5c//tmvZRBWvlpw31jNwciez L1pg== X-Google-Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=k53nHVzAyYL9B1uUQiI/hUR5WPYbpPBOHrA364026c0=; b=YY4uW6i1vuwf+cuo/7JU2AK5QGh537cLonaB0NpRx57RW5nVRq6kBon+USvB7LRrG8 gS9sR+7CMl6Qirdg3F0Qg+AkCN1yLX9QgiqUqx3F6cJrQ2hhZg0mdDMY32gxn0NFYnxN 0lYUEXItypeQ22zS5ynRBY8yNof8DYlxMsq9jSBvqbRAUDVap1kUBIOqbc7uLBt5PTZI m6km/S06HFe1QNb1LpkpGYjgKaCCT3yEIO5P72dbEu/+F4lmYYL8X2TeyrGKgOfE1vq6 zMdjIc41LWosEGYpY7mFwAbV8BSKYPVPU66CcvbjUyTezoUpFmGvhIDUORrqCeqyz2St tC/g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532w+z8GFRdSUi5AH7dMpElts3l2jk+vzer6dIgKWINnKW44wLUr z+ScrNP1JEEysVwZiLh3JKFzvxxV X-Google-SMTP-Source: ABdhPJx6H6y4AIYTclhdU/gWoTOEmg+KFi11syGjvvbe/jl3gU328nEtACXHAFFBEuT19xhjzjgvCA== X-Received: by 2002:aed:34c7:: with SMTP id x65mr30674395qtd.340.1591714819226; Tue, 09 Jun 2020 08:00:19 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/3.2.0-6-amd64; KDE/4.8.4; x86_64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/763562 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/202006091100.16409.rhkramer@gmail.com Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 33 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2020 11:00:16 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <202006091100.16409.rhkramer@gmail.com> X-Original-References: <20200607201455.y5avpnooyq6wu22b@rlharris.org> <20200609084216.GC22940@tuxteam.de> <20200609094524.37gdevlnjjkwwqum@phare.normalesup.org> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.user:223284 On Tuesday, June 09, 2020 05:45:24 AM Nicolas George wrote: > tomas@tuxteam.de (12020-06-09): > > Can we stop that already? Nobody proved you can't build Jitsi or > > BBB from source. Everyone here is just too friggin' lazy to even > > try. > >=20 > > Can we give 'em the benefit of the doubt until someone really makes > > his hands ditry on that? >=20 > You can be na=EFve and give them the benefit of the doubt. But I will not. > Jitsi is a big project, it claims the reputation benefits of being Libre > Software: the onus of proof is on it. +1 If a project is new, I'm willing to give a project the benefit of the doubt= on=20 the assumption that it is a statement of intent, and, as they recognize=20 shortcomings, they will fix them. =20 > I will state and repeat: until we see actual reliable proof, claiming > that Jitsi is Libre Software is wrong. >=20 > > That's how fake news spread, btw. > >=20 > > I think it's somewhat disgusting. Folks, put up... or shut up now. >=20 > Your attempt at irrational shaming is dishonest. >=20 > Regards,