Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!fu-berlin.de!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Sam Hartman Newsgroups: linux.debian.project Subject: Re: A policy on use of AI-generated content in Debian Date: Fri, 03 May 2024 01:30:01 +0200 Message-ID: References: X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-project-request@lists.debian.org Thu May 2 23:25:48 2024 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-112.8 required=4.0 tests=DKIMWL_WL_HIGH,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,LDOSUBSCRIBER,LDO_WHITELIST, USER_IN_DKIM_WELCOMELIST,USER_IN_DKIM_WHITELIST autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-109.565 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-2.355, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, USER_IN_DKIM_WELCOMELIST=-0.01, USER_IN_DKIM_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate:hard: -3.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Moderated: yes X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/31536 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/tsl8r0r3kxg.fsf@suchdamage.org Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 22 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Date: Thu, 02 May 2024 16:31:39 -0600 X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-References: <3qxsesyoouxh2h6fodosnln4wsyl3tpmnbcu6pqzekqkz6k577@a2gos5jbaowf> <293ea612c85c613358d695474f1a36b65a6e1090.camel@43-1.org> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.project:13560 >>>>> "Dominik" == Dominik George writes: Dominik> Generative AI tools **produce** derivatives of other people's copyrighted works. Dominik> That said, we already have the necessary policies in place: Russ pointed out this is a fairly complicated claim. It is absolutely true that generative AI models have produced output that contains copyrighted text. The questions of whether that text is an infringing derivative of those copyrighted works are making their way through a number of law suits in my country at least. And as Russ points out the moral issues are going to be even harder to figure out. I don't think it is as simple as you write above, and I agree with Russ's thoughts on the situation. --Sam