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micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SEQxBqQPRHgyi25DX8vPOQAz5wPjVEoD9" X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/18201 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/942a7ca2-3f86-28ad-01c3-40e5d6490b8b@debian.org Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 90 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2020 21:16:41 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <942a7ca2-3f86-28ad-01c3-40e5d6490b8b@debian.org> X-Original-References: <1968965.QJNccU8LJt@sk-desktop> <1A04B226-0168-406B-AA65-2CCE863554F0@kitterman.com> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:12519 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --SEQxBqQPRHgyi25DX8vPOQAz5wPjVEoD9 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="MLD3SvjWHopyyCZ74yUqd53CI3UAOLpkN" --MLD3SvjWHopyyCZ74yUqd53CI3UAOLpkN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 20-04-23 20 h 52, Scott Kitterman wrote: >=20 >=20 > On April 24, 2020 12:26:27 AM UTC, "Louis-Philippe V=C3=A9ronneau" wrote: >> On 20-04-23 17 h 54, Scott Kitterman wrote: >>> On Thursday, April 23, 2020 5:21:49 PM EDT Rebecca N. Palmer wrote: >>>> This warning was added to Lintian today, after being requested in >>>> #958182. It appears on thousands of packages: >>>> >> https://lintian.debian.org/tags/mailing-list-obsolete-in-debian-infras= tructu >>>> re.html >>> >>> Thanks. I mailed the bug to point out this tag is currently >> problematic. >> >> FWIW, I proposed we merge the DPMT and the PAPT a few months ago [1] >> and >> migrate to team+python@tracker.debian.org. >> >> That would also solve the current issue with lintian :) >> >> [1]: >> https://salsa.debian.org/python-team/tools/python-modules/-/merge_requ= ests/10 >=20 > And I don't think the response was particularly positive. My recollect= ion was that there's a preference for two teams because packages and modu= les have different needs. Hmm, from the discussions we had on the mailing list and on Salsa the feedback was mainly positive actually. Happy to talk some more about it either on Salsa or on the ML: https://lists.debian.org/debian-python/2019/10/msg00021.html >=20 > I don't think we should let an artificial sense of urgency because lint= ian push us in to anything (apologies if I'm remembering the wrong instan= ce of this being suggested - it's happened before). 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