Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder7.news.weretis.net!news.albasani.net!tahina.priv.at!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Andrey Rahmatullin Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.python Subject: Re: Investigating the reverse dependencies of python-monotonic. Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 13:00:02 +0200 Message-ID: References: X-Original-To: peter green X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Tue Aug 13 10:54:36 2019 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-12 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, PGPSIGNATURE=-5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate: -3.5 Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=wrar.name; s=20160710; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID: Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=CN1zjzA5X2dqi3PGycyVxdyUBm4wu4g7Jjaqn3j6fqI=; b=seg+qrAq56cdjVTfR3PURBhPDN 2PBMRBVmaYAofeiv61hOrEhO3MUvZPCD8h9qTN+usCF7sSUXh9gN8rHbNIq4a4yzyZVgr6hPVW3nz Ot4Vz1DgBFkjZSo6zjZevN0oe9JAhv+sWPQ7O6ONL7J26RX6DBse96RzFcP0ystv85Gk=; MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/17116 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/20190813105422.GA1759@belkar.wrar.name Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 83 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Cc: debian-python@lists.debian.org, duplicity@packages.debian.org, oz@packages.debian.org, team+openstack@tracker.debian.org X-Original-Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 15:54:22 +0500 X-Original-Message-ID: <20190813105422.GA1759@belkar.wrar.name> X-Original-References: <33e1e89f-7c02-789b-37da-18722cba4652@p10link.net> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:11613 --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 11:38:33AM +0100, peter green wrote: > One package that stood out from the rest was python-monotonic. python-mon= otonic is maintained by the Debian openstack team, but it doesn't seem to b= e in any way openstack specific, nor does upstream seem to have dropped pyt= hon2 support. It seemed to have a fair few reverse dependencies. >=20 > python-humanfriendly (has rdeps) > oz (rc bug filed https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D9335= 09 ) > python-fasteners (has rdeps) > python-futurist (has rdeps, cruft) > python-octaviaclient (assumed to be openstack related) > python-oslo.log (assumed to be openstack related) > python-oslo.messaging (assumed to be openstack related) > python-oslo.service (assumed to be openstack related) > python-oslo.utils (assumed to be openstack related) > python-tenacity (has rdeps, cruft) >=20 > There are also indirect reverse dependencies, (i'm not investigating reve= rse dependencies of packages that are clearly openstack specific here) >=20 > python-coloredlogs (via python-humanfriendly, no reverse dependencies) > python-datalad (via python-fasteners, no reverse dependencies) > duplicity (via python-fasteners) > python-oauth2client (via python-fasteners) > python-oslo.concurrency (via python-fastners, openstack related) > python-taskflow (via python-fasteners, cruft) > python-tooz (via python-fasteners, openstack related, cruft) > python-googleapi (via python-oauth2client) > python-pypowervm (via python-taskflow, openstack related, cruft) > python-googleapi-samples (via python-googleapi) > python-etcd3gw (no rdeps) > python-gnocchiclient (openstack related, cruft) >=20 > If we ignore openstack stuff, python modules and an examples package the = two main packages left seem to be oz and duplicity, oz seems to have very l= ow popcon, but duplicity seems to have a popcon of around 3000 and growing. >=20 > So the main question seems to be can duplicity be reasonably migrated to = python 3 and if not is it worth reinstating the python-monotonic binary pac= kage to save duplicity? This is worrying, a package with revdeps shouldn't have been dropped. By the way, you checked only deps, not build-deps, as at least python-coloredlogs and python-datalad has reverse build-deps. I've also noted https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D934333 As for duplicity, the latest upstream version (not packaged) support Python 3. --=20 WBR, wRAR --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQJhBAABCgBLFiEEolIP6gqGcKZh3YxVM2L3AxpJkuEFAl1Slt0tFIAAAAAAFQAP cGthLWFkZHJlc3NAZ251cGcub3Jnd3JhckBkZWJpYW4ub3JnAAoJEDNi9wMaSZLh EUAP/11g31pI2LP7PbIentwzQ0ZQ2s046dRAKQG3ReC3SRlOKzIZby+4cTQ9/Kec n4pW+mdVjGJDLvTFry6eBx9gjcj6n60iDBmiJTi9BAEL0/usX9OdOEPm3yE4Kuxx iHEblgVs3fDeYqQLpZO53duWM4npbNqcxt9Q7Deg68lL4jHRk4ftiE32szj1GXFw KJX2bmug7QqpyTfZTq9Cv48Iw8ohsKXzkwxeTo3M4gEZeqrZWeIOlIZyaSjZVPsP jZtlqjkz2hd0GklIhyucVs94xVmN+GBdkFgypohfePZpP3Iq3KspXWa2sGqefCWZ rWwZ+BfbLZCxSkH8LuGJU7tUpupZ1EK036vzfgiVIof5kwjJx3H6el862tbWrfrT k0Op7BPbC3wWQAQPsCM6YZYakwm0Nry419sps9WwyaKP8OH/sum44grc8W093nio uXVI/rbhjXBXzAT4lQpGfrcTbk8SmTaVu8NJYmn5v2S3TXbqj5RdqhARfMxVdsbU qs97Bw2dkg9T9jD+ya6mYIgeu5zzieHJGqPt2vnazWML+X9WZM+Az3iES9imiNm9 L6edPV3FatiAPaKtucMBQPDTfIKnHRClZhfI/aZZ6QtWFSatxoHBFdms6GJJqrjt fE1OZ2ExUUYGjNGnr0xhxx4XvCYCmATNBrUgaMUj+j8yOEaf =6Hre -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l--