Path: csiph.com!aioe.org!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Scott Kitterman Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.python Subject: Re: Packages depending on python-testtools are now RC: is bzr still a thing? Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2019 01:20:01 +0200 Message-ID: References: X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Sat Sep 14 23:15:29 2019 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.1 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FOURLA=0.1, LDO_WHITELIST=-5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate:hard: -5.5 Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=ed25519-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kitterman.com; i=@kitterman.com; q=dns/txt; s=201903e; t=1568502914; h=from : to : subject : date : message-id : in-reply-to : references : mime-version : content-transfer-encoding : content-type : from; bh=CVL03p5tPTKAjAyzg3ziVgzWskd5bxKWqS1OMzKLmcs=; b=XQpOd14MaJzjRv1qfq6sbGJL0fBYQySo6n4vnKRandxcshGEkSpvk3hc lKPNvA2475LVqPy2c8n0pkk7HAwbCw== Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kitterman.com; i=@kitterman.com; q=dns/txt; s=201903r; t=1568502914; h=from : to : subject : date : message-id : in-reply-to : references : mime-version : content-transfer-encoding : content-type : from; bh=CVL03p5tPTKAjAyzg3ziVgzWskd5bxKWqS1OMzKLmcs=; b=oZfsz3llm32GRLuJuLjmXv0Y3i10szexyay6ijwXsM4KrhSQeCpnOBvO x5dLp+GumdZSsVi/F7e0H/LSZfM1QybdCsfdb9Rq3XCN0RGSGsLyiEvT2Q bkw9v+W+Wj9resROAoI0eQSVCInDWXBuvc0IGK+JN44fi/w5AKxAmRqK8o znkK9hlAz40fIQFGIwoYPj0XFbeyn4VmW/tC1jpUCJnaZNBzIROXlbjobG JBpqweXl7+Q70xVKkBhE7266MtcZtb9EvmKuyoSbPcs7+Kj9yMZm2SA2Ry G9j5jG8VcKnmyOfh6foG1ms4YZOq6bBn4bWHnDYcV/+WPjtucjOpdA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/17342 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/2926378.PZRHtU5IR0@l5580 Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 45 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 19:15:11 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <2926378.PZRHtU5IR0@l5580> X-Original-References: <5c8da6a2-309d-d8d8-e773-172a50b6e56e@debian.org> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:11809 On Saturday, September 14, 2019 6:43:13 PM EDT Thomas Goirand wrote: > Hi, > > As I wrongly thought python-extras was used only by OpenStack stuff, I > removed Python 2 support for it. Then someone filed a bug against > python-testtools (ScottK, I believe) saying that it became RC. > Therefore, I went ahead and removed Python 2 support for testtools, but > now, this implies that a few packages which I didn't wish to impact are > also RC: > > * bzr-builddeb > * bzr-email > * bzr-fastimport > * bzr-git > * bzr-stats > * bzr-upload > * loggerhead > > So, basically, unfortunately, Bazaar has lost some of its build > dependencies. > > So, I went ahead, and looked what I could do for Bazaar. Unfortunately, > when looking at: > https://launchpad.net/bzr > > I can see no release since January 2016, no daily archive. The last > commit in the bzr repository of bzr is from 2017-03-17. > > Then I went to see how much Python 3 effort would be needed, and I > quickly gave up. It'd be A LOT of work, but nobody seems doing ANY work > on bzr anymore. > > So I wonder: is it time to remove bazaar from Debian? Or is there any > vague plan to make it work with Python 3? If we are to remove it from > Debian, then we'd better do it ASAP. As I understand it, bazaar (bzr) is dead and being replaced by breezy (brz), which is python3 compatible. https://www.breezy-vcs.org/ My inference is that anything bzr specific can go, but I'm not involved in either project. Scott K