Path: csiph.com!news.dns-netz.com!news.freedyn.net!aioe.org!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Ian Jackson Newsgroups: linux.debian.devel,linux.debian.maint.python Subject: Re: should Debian add itself to https://python3statement.org ? Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2019 17:10:02 +0200 Message-ID: References: X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-devel-request@lists.debian.org Thu Sep 12 15:02:12 2019 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.3 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate:hard: -2.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 24.4.1 (i586-pc-linux-gnu) X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/340669 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/23930.24034.134879.230980@chiark.greenend.org.uk Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 32 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-python@lists.debian.org X-Original-Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2019 16:01:54 +0100 X-Original-Message-ID: <23930.24034.134879.230980@chiark.greenend.org.uk> X-Original-Newsgroups: chiark.mail.debian.devel X-Original-References: Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.devel:93458 linux.debian.maint.python:11799 Drew Parsons writes ("should Debian add itself to https://python3statement.org ?"): > https://python3statement.org/ is a site documenting the projects which > are supporting the policy of dropping Python2 to keep Python3 only. That statement is a *pledge* to drop support for python2 by the end of 2020. Have we in fact made such a pledge ? I think I may have missed the memo that python2 would be removed from bullseye. I did some searching and found this https://lists.debian.org/debian-python/2019/07/msg00080.html which is a sane-looking transition plan but doesn't seem to have a timeframe and doesn't seem to contemplate removal of the actual python2 interpreter. FTAOD I don't have an opinion about whether bullseye *should* ship without python2. Obviously dropping it would not be desirable from users' pov, but maintaining an ancient thing by ourselves would not be desirable either. I think I trust the Debian Python team to make that tradeoff. But we need to be clear what's going on and communicate early. If python2 is going out of bullseye then there are a lot of bugs that should probably be marked rc fairly soon... thanks, Ian. -- Ian Jackson These opinions are my own. If I emailed you from an address @fyvzl.net or @evade.org.uk, that is a private address which bypasses my fierce spamfilter.