Path: csiph.com!news.redatomik.org!aioe.org!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Scott Kitterman Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.python Subject: Re: Numpy migration? Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2019 21:00:02 +0100 Message-ID: References: X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Sat Jan 5 19:56:35 2019 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.1 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FOURLA=0.1, LDO_WHITELIST=-5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate: -5.5 Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=ed25519-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kitterman.com; i=@kitterman.com; q=dns/txt; s=201812e; t=1546718154; h=from : to : subject : date : message-id : in-reply-to : references : mime-version : content-transfer-encoding : content-type : from : subject : date; bh=TsPcPwD2TiGz3GyLVnDidaVnYOdo6f2/Cv2Tr0XFe7o=; b=AOU2S03RIib/njGkpNRp482KkKAy8eIUCf4KI/kJEZGscwC4M1YOwNT7 Xr5H3Zr3lw8cPajN2TfX+4zFyNg/BQ== Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kitterman.com; i=@kitterman.com; q=dns/txt; s=201812r; t=1546718154; h=from : to : subject : date : message-id : in-reply-to : references : mime-version : content-transfer-encoding : content-type : from : subject : date; bh=TsPcPwD2TiGz3GyLVnDidaVnYOdo6f2/Cv2Tr0XFe7o=; b=a1DiqATEmYTAqRKyVsRmlrmmX4qK0iMPO6KirWDHx5c5/2ttoFam8Ij3 rJE70xG8wcKnmixXFq0/FTAedGtXG4+rROLPw+Fd3vMdR6SkCN60jLGCvL bt33lVykSRpxhPLvUlDtJ4/Aj2XQl5boZRKLUPYwAnGJN4btjqkHee5Xsz weuoyX3gLNiM/2Hr7NFfdH1uX+5BeVFRjZLhsh9nrxpwv27z2WXsuA8n5J OoFV6yeGqIfbbkpspHYjAFC3UmVGRy5Jo0T4MGnSVCpzTidEZPdPg2FBkk 0PI692XCNV/q9CfE316kS2rE4ePJ6a4LwMQdtBYeOS3azY+2WHqmAg== User-Agent: KMail/4.13.3 (Linux/3.13.0-163-generic; KDE/4.13.3; x86_64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/16659 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/3575522.fifBa94i5m@kitterma-e6430 Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 29 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2019 14:55:48 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: <3575522.fifBa94i5m@kitterma-e6430> X-Original-References: <87a7kfqk65.fsf@orrococo> <20190105153545.GB26988@mapreri.org> <87tvimq4vf.fsf@orrococo> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:11208 On Saturday, January 05, 2019 08:30:28 PM Ole Streicher wrote: > Mattia Rizzolo writes: > > On Sat, Jan 05, 2019 at 04:02:35PM +0100, Ole Streicher wrote: > >> I'll do tonight. It however looks a bit suboptimal: when the CI test > >> with a new version fails for an old reverse dependency, then the new > >> version obviously breaks that old package. So, the breakage could be > >> detected (and taken into account) automatically. Why do we need a manual > >> action then? > > > > Let me try to suggest you see from another side: the goal of the Breaks > > field is to prevent a given combination of known broken packages to be > > installed. > > Currently autopkgtest blocks the migration of numpy, but if there wasn't > > that block a Breaks should still be added, as the astropy in testing is > > not compatible with the new numpy. The fact that it hints britney to > > trigger the right tests is just a "side effects", the Breaks should be > > added nonetheless, theoretically; in practice, we rarely did it before > > autopkgtest started blocking the testing migration. > > I agree (with the explanation in your other mail) here; it just states > the fact that they really don't go together very well (at least in > situation similar to the specific CI test). For what it's worth, I hit (AIUI) the same situation when I updated python- bleach. It broke python-readme-renderer. I reuploaded python-bleach with the breaks and a new version of python-readme-renderer (which worked with the new bleach) and both migrated two days later (since they both had autopkgtests). Scott K