Path: csiph.com!news.redatomik.org!aioe.org!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Michael Hudson-Doyle Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.python Subject: Re: Python 3.7 or 3.6 in Buster Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2018 09:40:02 +0100 Message-ID: References: X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Mon Nov 5 08:33:09 2018 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.48 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, EMPTY_BODY=3, HTML_MESSAGE=2, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, MURPHY_DRUGS_REL8=0.02, PHONENUMBER=1.5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate: -7 X-Google-Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Ks1fTIBMw+FFnJqWlEkUP1/Dk2axjmZDX+yncigtbiM=; b=jYt7JUb7zTkXcOO44jCT2NQF+G/PM3MkVTbAwVhpGvTc6OPJeZvpYNo8tBo3WLGxIJ gnkV1/Qwu+TuXfX3fgYIjCMuy2pIiiG1CbNEZZJnSYCgGElccJ0Y60an7xOzxQAHZpw9 aM2MD1c8oO74qHVqfeeB2zYErKTYrHjfEy1yVZoQvVMNSnBW7RZDh/ScMmzZbJy0C0eO IsOs/8hmsv/Uw8NjNju8vbIF6Wx/dOvb9Yda9xVhD4lQZuJgDMfhuOCE0f23SdZx31MW 84VLVSdTgghHoDncDq1mmXgI2kx2S+lEnDUEnhFBAeSutB+O5QQ8Yzp4QOsvDQjfbjiG Cu0g== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gKCQaKcHA39Fb6MjZGfq0LGIRSX3g6JQKbppIMkMeJRVtORb9aE dLR2KfkbQdHOfXpJr6uR8+wd8xBaQAdVnEWXhTV6N9fwzLsUD9Gp4GfqhJQ88hy6I45U8hApuJB +2hwOnEuph2xqw17Rn3KMtlqiiOEEeZm3OwwYGZjW7D3eFgoP1Qv/N8ihumqH X-Received: by 2002:a9d:1541:: with SMTP id z1mr11756631otz.305.1541405861902; Mon, 05 Nov 2018 00:17:41 -0800 (PST) X-Google-SMTP-Source: AJdET5ef5AkB7+6HeX1wlS2gKeMApQm9lk39MupShJdpLLRsfMQpmjbpSh8bTrGPzayAvMP55nusxyl2po4X0Eigqa4= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:1541:: with SMTP id z1mr11756623otz.305.1541405861635; Mon, 05 Nov 2018 00:17:41 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000d6787c0579e684ab" X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/16499 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/CAJ8wqtd86DHBg8=bQDx1h9JTDse9933OH8_JpQBdb21SY-AZNA@mail.gmail.com Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 120 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Cc: debian-python X-Original-Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 21:17:30 +1300 X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-References: Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:11064 --000000000000d6787c0579e684ab Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Mon, 5 Nov 2018 at 21:09, Thomas Goirand wrote: > Hi there! > > During Debconf, we decided we would not decide yet, and see in November > if we think it's reasonable to allow Python 3.7 to reach Buster. Time > has passed, RC bugs have been fixed, and now is probably the time to > open this thread. > > To me, as much as the OpenStack packages are concerned, I'm kind of fine > with 3.7, modulo fixing this bug in Glance: > > https://bugs.debian.org/911947 > > which I forwarded here: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1800601 > > It looks like this bug is 3.7.1 specific (ie: there's no bug if using > Python 3.7.0). Upstream had a look, and didn't find a way to fix (yet). > Help appreciated. > I commented on the bug. > It looks like everything else in OpenStack works. > > What is the situation for other packages? Do we have lots of Python 3.7 > problems remaining? If so, it'd be nice to have them listed somewhere, > so we have a clear picture of what's going on. > We're going through the process of switching to 3.7 as default in Ubuntu right now, so I think it makes sense to switch Debian too fairly soon. I'm trying to remember to attach all my patches to Debian bug reports... Cheers, mwh Do other fellow DD also think it's kind of ok to keep 3.7 in Buster? > > Also, Doko, do you plan on upgrading to newer point release? Python > 3.7.1-rc1 and 3.7.1 both were the cause of troubles for me. I just hope > this wont happen again (though I'd understand if you wished to upgrade > once more before the freeze). In any ways, it'd be nice to communicate > what you're planning on doing. > > Cheers, > > Thomas Goirand (zigo) > > --000000000000d6787c0579e684ab Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Mon= , 5 Nov 2018 at 21:09, Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> wrote:
Hi= there!

During Debconf, we decided we would not decide yet, and see in November
if we think it's reasonable to allow Python 3.7 to reach Buster. Time has passed, RC bugs have been fixed, and now is probably the time to
open this thread.

To me, as much as the OpenStack packages are concerned, I'm kind of fin= e
with 3.7, modulo fixing this bug in Glance:

https://bugs.debian.org/911947

which I forwarded here:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1800601

It looks like this bug is 3.7.1 specific (ie: there's no bug if using Python 3.7.0). Upstream had a look, and didn't find a way to fix (yet).=
Help appreciated.

I commented on the bu= g.
=C2=A0
It looks like everything else in OpenStack works.

What is the situation for other packages? Do we have lots of Python 3.7
problems remaining? If so, it'd be nice to have them listed somewhere,<= br> so we have a clear picture of what's going on.
We're going through the process of switching to 3.7 as defa= ult in Ubuntu right now, so I think it makes sense to switch Debian too fai= rly soon. I'm trying to remember to attach all my patches to Debian bug= reports...

Cheers,
mwh

Do other fellow DD also think it's kind of ok to keep 3.7 in Buster?
Also, Doko, do you plan on upgrading to newer point release? Python
3.7.1-rc1 and 3.7.1 both were the cause of troubles for me. I just hope
this wont happen again (though I'd understand if you wished to upgrade<= br> once more before the freeze). In any ways, it'd be nice to communicate<= br> what you're planning on doing.

Cheers,

Thomas Goirand (zigo)

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