Path: csiph.com!feeder.erje.net!1.eu.feeder.erje.net!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!news.mixmin.net!aioe.org!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: ghisvail@gmail.com Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.python Subject: Re: Matplotlib 3.0 - update ok? Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 09:20:01 +0200 Message-ID: References: X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Tue Oct 16 07:16:11 2018 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.442 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, MURPHY_DRUGS_REL8=0.02, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SARE_MSGID_LONG40=0.637] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate: -7 Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=message-id:subject:from:to:date:in-reply-to:references:user-agent :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ljALosGKcHBJmwrQlULyryys373mRrGhwPZBSzxalLg=; b=l/W+opKFPY6RTqAsMkz9GD+FA13nh7pzU7qaLnAvvlpdJVUPZlcyoJZqDL0qQOS5uE M6V7sz1FV9d0Rr56HhFqV6F02Cq4FYf6zxDnimE6Bdp50OHrriT6etCSthRYaYqHa0/Z YPxwrNp7E9uipv8l1VFKZLV017Pvi8vxAeJ3r8VW7+VUtXqsh+CNgsyZj0tuktPtRO86 I+tOgZHqNn1kc2TKtN6iVTHDkCM1huYqqKMWLzQvePfhb8H7cvNBs0atyiVAjcC67fH+ DEmfTM6zmOs+6ijFoq/WayOm2RMklnirmW01ZIgH9nygMhNQXievAtw6tauJFcPHaAy+ wjEg== X-Google-Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:subject:from:to:date:in-reply-to :references:user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ljALosGKcHBJmwrQlULyryys373mRrGhwPZBSzxalLg=; b=noFbftbOmN6Qm7/w3EeKH/q7/WMxzO+bJts6kdGtrUEIOTgH8UjarjfiGr9GfLKK9O 316qcLdZnJ/QEU63jNoyT9wSO+5x5rLpJQEYVbRKm9R7CLuZDG+lCIUTM5T11Hg5KjAZ Khw8lxtK6surMpit1JAeOLNbpOgnd7G2mLXYyyXjJdSWcOFm59En9Eg81sPIOQ40VECa jVlG7Co/BRyhN1ycXgkchiQ38gU5GaZh9HCCeCYQgyvpLH9bKM6bT5Ub2KxO+GAWQ5zI oNnTV6k99sKzpL4ErWUVsDhCdAdhL+J43sri09F0WdInwy64zYFDo1mIqwxNPvccTssZ O4Iw== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfog0DJTbTkNZhmruTZNP1dHp5DOPHSRXEc+i3gaOaxzeW7DyBLsv OyfUH5RhaW77OElqUIPZ840= X-Google-SMTP-Source: ACcGV62bBG8OWxtg19etWIIW+nPnz0o3ClwQ3ivbiDdFuXlO779eAlxmjKpVP6IyQFrEBQBgJEl7pg== X-Received: by 2002:adf:e681:: with SMTP id r1-v6mr3241763wrm.294.1539674155371; Tue, 16 Oct 2018 00:15:55 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" User-Agent: Evolution 3.30.1-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/16448 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/5be90e8cdf3630c8faeb6064894d223c140e9ab6.camel@gmail.com Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 54 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 08:15:53 +0100 X-Original-Message-ID: <5be90e8cdf3630c8faeb6064894d223c140e9ab6.camel@gmail.com> X-Original-References: <47afc535-29be-9a2f-291f-37d790a618ad@uni-rostock.de> <20181016064615.7nja4gr4wffnf666@an3as.eu> <9a951bcf0467588fdd0b64dad002724c61980660.camel@gmail.com> <20181016070022.ltlhjnwh2etcw2e2@an3as.eu> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:11016 On Tue, 2018-10-16 at 09:00 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 07:55:40AM +0100, ghisvail@gmail.com wrote: > > > > I suppose the main module is still named "matplotlib" not > > > > "matplotlib3" in version 3 onwards? So using python3- > > > > matplotlib3 > > > > would > > > > be a breach of policy. > > > > > > Probably. > > > > Described in Section 2.2 of the Debian Python policy. > > Depending how heavy Steffen would volunteer to patch and also rename > the > module (which I would not consider a very sensible idea). Which means future packages depending on matplotlib v3+ would have to be manually patched to account for the renaming. Sounds impractical to me. > > > I'm not sure what might be the difference between: > > > > > > 3.0.0 Stable version > > > 2.2.3 LTS LTS version > > > > > > We have some months left until freeze so may be right now it is > > > not > > > to > > > late to package what upstream considers stable. > > > > > > Kind regards > > > > > > Andreas. > > > From the upstream homepage: "Matplotlib 3.0 is Python 3 only." > > > > Afaik, Python 2 is still considered relevant for the Buster release > > cycle. Hence why I am suggesting to wait for the next release cycle > > before upgrading key scientific packages, such as matplotlib, to > > Python > > 3 only. > > Right. This would surely kick several scientific packages. > > Kind regards > > Andreas. Indeed. Note that NumPy has already published plans to become Python 3 only in the near future, so the deprecation of Python 2 in the scientific stack will happen eventually. I just don't think it should be rushed into the Buster release cycle. Ghis