Path: csiph.com!news.mixmin.net!aioe.org!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Piotr =?utf-8?Q?O=C5=BCarowski?= Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.python Subject: Re: Updated PEP 394 (python and python2 commands) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 14:00:01 +0200 Message-ID: References: X-Original-To: debian-python@lists.debian.org X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Sun Jun 10 11:59:32 2018 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.75 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, LDO_WHITELIST=-5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate: -6.1 Mail-Followup-To: debian-python@lists.debian.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: NeoMutt/20180223 X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/16051 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/20180610115914.7ukdlli6l2d6hfig@sar0.p1otr.com Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 27 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 13:59:14 +0200 X-Original-Message-ID: <20180610115914.7ukdlli6l2d6hfig@sar0.p1otr.com> X-Original-References: <6dc7af52-174f-04c5-9149-cc5affa8afb1@debian.org> <20180518091951.jk6gvppn7yxyx5zp@sar0.p1otr.com> <2129b34f-a837-2d14-4400-3fa44785885d@debian.org> <20180518170216.pkxk44ipymh3jspv@sar0.p1otr.com> <20180518172417.kke4qgitz73uihog@sar0.p1otr.com> <38444031-1db5-6cda-f8c2-063580be7d30@debian.org> <275db62c-817f-4c06-ff31-460b589ebe96@debian.org> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:10642 [Matthias Klose, 2018-06-08] > from my point of view this doesn't address: > > - being able to de-install the python command for buster, if > people don't use it. Most dependencies are auto-generated, so > these could be replaced by dependencies on python2. I would > assume that the majority of users won't have to install the > python package anymore, unless they are doing python2 > development. how about generating dependencies on python2.7 and moving pycompile/pyclean there as well (this also solves pre-dependency issue) > - Not having a python package in bullseye (buster+1), but a > python2 package doesn't point to any "default" anymore. Many > users are installing just python, because it's the unversioned > package. So make it clear that this is another version, and > with having the choice of python2 and python3, most users will > install python3. same here additional question: why do you need for all that python2-doc, python2-minimal, python2-dev, libpython2-dev, libpython2-stdlib, python2-dbg and libpython2-dbg binary packages? -- GPG: 1D2F A898 58DA AF62 1786 2DF7 AEF6 F1A2 A745 7645