Path: csiph.com!feeder.erje.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.mixmin.net!aioe.org!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: =?UTF-8?B?c2hpcmlzaCDgpLbgpL/gpLDgpYDgpLc=?= Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.python Subject: Re: Could somebody change the alioth documentation, have a buster roadmap and know what's missing to move to python 3 entirely. Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2018 19:00:01 +0200 Message-ID: References: X-Original-To: debian-python X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Wed Jun 6 16:50:34 2018 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.37 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, BODY_8BITS=1.5, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, FROM_EXCESS_BASE64=0.979, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate:hard: -7 Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=O/QbX4VYHmLu0iv3SItohCgiTb7421ftQ0A92GReWsw=; b=bdHvppTJh21UHhHBXr0VFMY73+Lb+ncrDChSSfiMhRDtngJLk1aHA2lE96mrNjuZx1 LT9QdQxqZN0dWIixhYg2i9WSeVuC7fcF2Zeud4tDOtnoCDNFSdjGmikeAkn6XMKgXxsO f01oP1D48V/63VN6RvAzIJL+DE6+P11lmtJbFmCIcfHHRe+AO7fbbpiti6BQNYZb4f28 kb0ouKdWc+4h0UrSCt7HzYqKZMe/qFqP0yh1reQpRQxd1YdZ6mhgKW1R6NmOhA4lT+vr aR5LK5ZkJ10ZyfitkTLNHHErtjfxcAm0Vwe9g6hrxg7YBw7kmi6AXcPiusF2K7A6a2qF U/cQ== X-Google-Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=O/QbX4VYHmLu0iv3SItohCgiTb7421ftQ0A92GReWsw=; b=XXdKAbimfi7t0Ba9m/9ZOJ68+4F7vsMzWJHV1+R11F/j8rux1CHOTveAYsxHK578Rs P7orrI/l9jWFEHcLo1UivnhA5r7SSEhdkDnN42k2qtp8owEKt23zcQmg/PC1ojXPDprN 2hDoduXKLVFr+DSqeyMam7mycmmIuWJzuSA9+/Bn9TD3ZY4c8fXypc9szqU64Q+z8MRY ElYTZyu6+fDZFO3+KD8F8eHlDXtZIe905jpZVXCGFddaJztXbZoDkTnVz72T0GwGJdIy /clRZV0W/smlj9ciLYjarnfex+zwPrd5Hqgl6SdSTsmPigt0prw5AQYL5U3cDRImCa58 SmLQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E3l0lR6ISSqetV6rySyv91gBulun7rF7MxPfVzdOrCWQ2OMkcXM 8Fo221CTgRRi76Sq7BOPD+uQUm/sV/6xnPbavPoebQ== X-Google-SMTP-Source: ADUXVKK7iFBg8Br7x9TJm0CZYTI68JQ8JXLHO+b03vTSOZVkv1WvmqtLdMSxALTb8wpRO5xPnRx9XR9m3C4XCU0Rz1g= X-Received: by 2002:a0d:c601:: with SMTP id i1-v6mr1741724ywd.495.1528303815348; Wed, 06 Jun 2018 09:50:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/16029 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/CADdDZR=s=8VAApy5UH8F0YwJz-kJtvFnXz7ktc3WMZenTuZLYg@mail.gmail.com Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 73 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 22:20:13 +0530 X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-References: Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:10620 at bottom :- On 06/06/2018, shirish =E0=A4=B6=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=B0=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B7 wrote: > Dear Friends, > > I was just looking for documentation about what's keeping us from > getting to python 3 but couldn't find anything which I could lay my > finger on. > > I did find some obsolete documentation though on the wiki. The entries > can be seen at - > > https://wiki.debian.org/Python > > and > > https://wiki.debian.org/Python/Python3Port > > The list addresses are of alioth glven therein. I am guessing most of > those mails have been submerged in debian-python debian mailing list > (i.e. here) probably. > > I was also looking for a BusterRoadmap on lines of the Stretch roadmap > and the Jessie roadmap from before but didn't find anything :( > > https://wiki.debian.org/Python/StretchRoadmap > https://wiki.debian.org/Python/JessieRoadmap > > I have also been trying to understand which packages/modules are > remaining for python 3 to be the default-python > > $ apt-cache policy python > python: > Installed: 2.7.15~rc1-1 > Candidate: 2.7.15~rc1-1 > Version table: > *** 2.7.15~rc1-1 500 > 500 http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian buster/main amd64 > Packages > 100 http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian unstable/main amd64 > Packages > 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status > > Look forward to answers. I do remember of times reading documentation > when the stdlib did not have all the libraries of a particular 3.x > version. I also remember reading somewhere that we still used lot of > python 2 scripts. Another could be that 2.7 will have support till > 2020. > > In either way having a roadmap would be nice. > I just read Andrey's mail at https://lists.debian.org/debian-python/2018/06/msg00024.html . Please CC me if somebody replies. Maybe it would have been better to say that right now python gives $ python --version Python 2.7.15 To be more precise, I meant to know if 'Bullseye' i.e Debian 11 would have python 3.0 as default or not. --=20 Regards, Shirish Agarwal =E0=A4=B6=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=B0=E0=A5=80=E0=A4=B7 = =E0=A4=85=E0=A4=97=E0=A5=8D=E0=A4=B0=E0=A4=B5=E0=A4=BE=E0=A4=B2 My quotes in this email licensed under CC 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/ http://flossexperiences.wordpress.com EB80 462B 08E1 A0DE A73A 2C2F 9F3D C7A4 E1C4 D2D8