Path: csiph.com!aioe.org!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Scott Kitterman Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.python Subject: Re: Updated PEP 394 (python and python2 commands) Date: Mon, 21 May 2018 01:40:02 +0200 Message-ID: References: X-Original-To: debian-python@lists.debian.org X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Sun May 20 23:39:43 2018 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.1 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, LDO_WHITELIST=-5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate: -5 Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=ed25519-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kitterman.com; i=@kitterman.com; q=dns/txt; s=201803e; t=1526859565; h=date : in-reply-to : references : mime-version : content-type : content-transfer-encoding : subject : to : from : message-id : date : subject : from; bh=ehdrNmAC0gUXf10ppVvNa21s56E+HnfbfqfOVsiFRd8=; b=PkYM7YlL3itjma//tpC95A3Ei2uVCJo/EvXwMdfJbpxory2ZRXiy2u+F kW8rioZHA6GwrDUCxNSHf1UlIdXkCA== Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kitterman.com; i=@kitterman.com; q=dns/txt; s=201803r; t=1526859565; h=date : in-reply-to : references : mime-version : content-type : content-transfer-encoding : subject : to : from : message-id : date : subject : from; bh=ehdrNmAC0gUXf10ppVvNa21s56E+HnfbfqfOVsiFRd8=; b=qyynX9JvmYrwZv5YzeO3ePnrdWJ9i+NZmgyZ4AQbYShGdGAdNeoh3PyV ez7TqW4bP2QyOoKtMHyddgIBAOaWnDW4uvA0FrJWO2xUY3IuHBMmVWDWHU U28YmbP0c07r5Nl0eRkeNLvferSTPSd842XQCRta4Wr6RZp6HEJgyWbRcq dpOdSFnsDAZkfEBdgy1Ln7wR5REAfuAKZpUjRDVObRUnsDnecBP0uTrx5T 1s+u/KAhZqsi6xAJTdrsl7sx1QxCm/ZGXMlS1h7086H0KF6fPJypVwtzVf 8BqnVwhNYiEFaNc7Ua5rZgZoSTrfX4k2U5fl7H+QJbeW8vnyPl1LdQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/15977 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/E5F8AC49-0A2A-4455-A971-362C616BEEB9@kitterman.com Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 41 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Date: Sun, 20 May 2018 23:38:15 +0000 X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-References: <6dc7af52-174f-04c5-9149-cc5affa8afb1@debian.org> <6a23522f-060f-7624-f950-63c8f641bd3f@debian.org> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:10571 On May 20, 2018 9:49:27 PM UTC, Thomas Goirand wrote: >On 05/17/2018 08:53 PM, Matthias Klose wrote: >> PEP 394 [1] saw an update in April 2018 [2], the diffs at [3]=2E >>=20 >> The most important change from my point of view is >>=20 >> -* It is suggested that even distribution-specific packages follow >the >> - ``python2``/``python3`` convention, even in code that is not >intended to >> +* It is strongly encouraged that distribution-specific packages use >``python2`` >> + or ``python3`` rather than ``python``, even in code that is not >intended to >> operate on other distributions=2E >>=20 >> I don't think there is enough time to replace all python shebangs to >python2 in >> time for the buster release, however there is no harm in starting >this process >> now=2E But I'd like to get this done for buster+1, in the case we >still need to >> ship a Python2/2=2E7, so that buster+1 doesn't ship with a python >command, but >> maybe with a python2 command=2E > >I very much support this proposal, and don't understand why Scott and >Piotr aren't (plus seemingly inventing things you haven't proposed)=2E You probably didn't notice that this is already happening (mentioned in th= e thread)=2E Not only did we not object to this, Piotr already implemented= it even before Matthias suggested it in this thread=2E So bottom line is = this is nonsense=2E There are other parts of the proposal that we are less sanguine about that= you conveniently removed=2E It is probably a better idea to get your fact= s straight before you start throwing around accusations=2E Scott K