Path: csiph.com!aioe.org!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: =?UTF-8?B?Tmd1eeG7hW4gSOG7k25nIFF1w6Ju?= Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.python Subject: Re: Backport of Python 3.6 for Debian Stretch? Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 05:10:01 +0200 Message-ID: References: X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Wed Apr 25 03:07:18 2018 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.82 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, EMPTY_BODY=3, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, FROM_EXCESS_BASE64=0.979, HTML_MESSAGE=2, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: DYN_NJABL=ERR(0) NOT_IN_SBL_XBL_SPAMHAUS=-1.5 BL_NJABL=ERR(-1.5) CL_IP_EQ_HELO_IP=-2 (check from: .gmail. - helo: .mail-qk0-x22f.google. - helo-domain: .google.) FROM/MX_MATCHES_HELO(DOMAIN)=-2; rate: -7 Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=E4B0dbwazkksoQCVgvLti/TrBlfcai1Wa81nmehHA7A=; b=E8VMWm93oRAxRXeAmF2fDP0Wvnw6gHHH9HvISozpVhNgnUNKFtDwmvC0AJn69qetYL c++bpr1LAfofj2ET/zyWrEib98hnSLghLnuAlZIOfurG7jNWvMWhdNBM7tnN5KuOrm4E 3Rwg2RZ0kKKcLE2t4uwEptGMoUz3W3+KDSKWoTE7okFIR0aHKQzktyvzFsPI/NDF6yfT JgQtYb18dVtAmXHegvnBY3iJkipRyEmFj7p+SPgT81syXuHCZ9HtWLMaY9LimdaVJJYh 0W1XgkGk6vlOnFXw0FuoAD+lmr8JZbEwnIY6paaQzh1h3ihbN1NuUtqJ5XbWXI4bAcz1 9dwA== X-Google-Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=E4B0dbwazkksoQCVgvLti/TrBlfcai1Wa81nmehHA7A=; b=ocklUcpyMJoyFjtv2hYK/T5+pIAiMT9tXWMLNACVkxpcN0kofnQTJmLfwI9pUu0o/d pzCDrIjolbOPCXL+cuEiKkHTe43gQMPNzd3lN5TVlcG1XgV+iMSmqYA3T0eD5eoIrpiB jOPNcHv8rSrDjFPN+OdCVUb4wENrY38LHO9Pur8SR68NsnrEN/M1vT7+9G1GyWpmuALt KjCm+nRUEOe6My3YIZ/NtbbkchEOYz4PQVunVWbzCTebV08zLX/V+9F/GnCjXf/Rv0ia nH7uT5p7UoPSlbABY+esK7GB0m5G2Om1kjC93Tj3hxvFxMrU/ARsD38AFRgj8XIOpdCx gofw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALQs6tCQym/yr9hObPQc9UBT/HWDHsX16nFxgt7yj0Rz5vIWsdnN1Hts ZQvgF8LGpb6BISdx5Vco2Hg3V+e1huF55EB9gjI= X-Google-SMTP-Source: AIpwx48uUzZR7vbHWqrKhNi9ksNu7n79OrQ/4k6cS+5gilPNf13CiXW7cgPO/+2gPO3seBEYuhzuGDCOxL5MGOkOGq0= X-Received: by 10.55.93.65 with SMTP id r62mr27354979qkb.143.1524625608483; Tue, 24 Apr 2018 20:06:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a114edde4cf2b59056aa38f54" X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/15868 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/CAL-RyxiO72t4RzR4aL6QruuHCu8Zo2GPhBwno-BmQErekmtmew@mail.gmail.com Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 80 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Cc: debian-python X-Original-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 10:06:47 +0700 X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-References: <20180424151917.jxgx3n23n3uc76w7@yuggoth.org> <20180424175816.hhp6yssxjp6toolc@yuggoth.org> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:10467 --001a114edde4cf2b59056aa38f54 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 12:58 AM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > On 2018-04-24 23:42:30 +0700 (+0700), Nguy=E1=BB=85n H=E1=BB=93ng Qu=C3= =A2n wrote: > [...] > I completely understand the reason for using packages, but Debian is > a volunteer project which does not exist solely to solve your > problems so you can either do something you already know how to do > (build Python 3.6 from source) and move on, or learn to make the > packages you want (including fixing any backporting issues you find > when doing so). Asking others to tell you how to do that is not the > sort of self-directed research expected of participants in a > volunteer project, it's at best begging and at worst disrespectful > of those who have invested the time to learn the things you're not > willing. > > https://backports.debian.org/Contribute/ > =E2=80=8BSorry if you feel disrespectful. But don't you think that this iss= ue is not mine-only, it may be other users as well? =E2=80=8BI spent much time to research on it, so that I can tell what diffe= rence between 3.6.1 and 3.6.4 packaging.=E2=80=8B My voice here may let the packager think again why they make package scripts so different between minor versions of Python. Don't you think that it is good? --=20 Qu=C3=A2n --001a114edde4cf2b59056aa38f54 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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On Wed, Apr = 25, 2018 at 12:58 AM, Jeremy Stanley <fungi@yuggoth.org> wro= te:
On 2018-04-24 23:42:= 30 +0700 (+0700), Nguy=E1=BB=85n H=E1=BB=93ng Qu=C3=A2n wrote:
[...]
I completely understand the reason for using packages, but Debian is=
a volunteer project which does not exist solely to solve your
problems so you can either do something you already know how to do
(build Python 3.6 from source) and move on, or learn to make the
packages you want (including fixing any backporting issues you find
when doing so). Asking others to tell you how to do that is not the
sort of self-directed research expected of participants in a
volunteer project, it's at best begging and at worst disrespectful
of those who have invested the time to learn the things you're not
willing.

https://backports.debian.org/Contribute/

=E2=80=8BSorry if you feel disr= espectful. But don't you think that this issue is not mine-only, it may= be other users as well?
=E2=80=8BI spent much time to research on it, so that I can t= ell what difference between 3.6.1 and 3.6.4 packaging.=E2=80=8B

My voice here = may let the packager think again why they make package scripts so different= between minor versions of Python. Don't you think that it is good?
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