Path: csiph.com!news.mixmin.net!aioe.org!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Michael Hudson-Doyle Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.python Subject: Re: snap in debian Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2017 01:50:01 +0200 Message-ID: References: X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Sun Oct 8 23:48:10 2017 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.321 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, HTML_MESSAGE=2, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate: -7 X-Google-Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=tIBiELcxhqIGtVf54lTLcFRJyIFTjx4NNo3zMGkmSN8=; b=BosH6iweDYobG7i0VZfmXc3dVI1OikAakcms4Y5IGuaf1zkffd7Zdz/tA35eNBiHeN LQY3oTgfmfKtmVGsz6FmFu8uOMxt7ooTkUblqtzuS+GX7skoeT5Z5GW68vjHJtMhQgWU 8E/nhqN+ANWDClD1pOnc+6ak+lrO2ZDSr9qLmZzApvZBj6+ex0KN2eAvAZorImpw+9jz jyvDZEHDa7uEZT7sJLhAuhix3ddXR71ycwv0QxtXD6AJ+Heldrjtg+HaaLxPRdusOOSD 1z4dqxf8Z1XWVdsfGwdYNpANwA0GDpVIgXYLFY63ZBxyYwzZ/PCrjWuyoz/fpHLoW+Wk Uk3g== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaWsvi/yhchMBCLF4iv55gbuCz9PlhCv36jFKnTLBBLOXGSGc8Vm 1zL9gyatNK2hpBFnVNHmEmm8K7S6KwGQfr3y38OVRo/wzY2hKoUHa+x6+iSDP9bP4SzDDYIN09p 5LuvekSKzKNdXIEuqzXpJnanb0uhbqg6jQ52723d8xVYkW2IEN3pkYrSieHgX X-Received: by 10.223.197.201 with SMTP id v9mr1179935wrg.82.1507505446822; Sun, 08 Oct 2017 16:30:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-SMTP-Source: AOwi7QDBHmB7nZw1k0UdyZJxsF2Fy0ZMafH+9II5iPgPaA49eURcHWY2Q2qpFrocAKgq0EQ5hpGAFG+wYN507Yzjx9I= X-Received: by 10.223.197.201 with SMTP id v9mr1179932wrg.82.1507505446623; Sun, 08 Oct 2017 16:30:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="089e08241fd4a4aecd055b117673" X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/15307 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/CAJ8wqtdE_-T6Uv1oqKiarrpY7np=uGLUQ652nYfOsrPXjYiB8g@mail.gmail.com Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 140 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Cc: debian-python X-Original-Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2017 12:30:46 +1300 X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-References: <5804be2d-67fa-b7d3-1332-8b362f892b5e@laposte.net> <69cec3b4-0c04-9c9b-961b-a0a65b2d3cb5@gmail.com> <877eweegqo.fsf@prune.linuxpenguins.xyz> <87376yd49g.fsf@prune.linuxpenguins.xyz> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:9925 --089e08241fd4a4aecd055b117673 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On 5 October 2017 at 09:56, Michael Hudson-Doyle < michael.hudson@canonical.com> wrote: > > > On 5 October 2017 at 09:52, Brian May wrote: > >> Michael Hudson-Doyle writes: >> > Can you elaborate? Do you have apparmor enabled? I am aware that there >> are >> > problems on stable currently but being explicit reduces guessing. >> >> See the stack overflow question. The major issue was the error when >> trying to remove an existing container. >> >> 2017-09-09T15:08:29+10:00 ERROR cannot remove snap file "robotica", will >> retry in 3 mins: snap-robotica-x1.mount failed to stop: timeout >> > > Ah OK. I've not seen this. > > I also had problems with incorrect permissions randomly appearing, even >> though I used exactly the same process every time. > > > Or that. Time to rebuild my stretch vm I guess (I accidentally upgraded it > to sid...). > I've rebuilt my VM and things seem to mostly work (so long as I leave apparmor off). Can you provide reproduction instructions for either of your problems? > > Can you try just installing the package from unstable rather than >> > rebuilding it? (sometimes static linking does solve problems :-p) >> >> I was guessing it won't be possible to install the package straight from >> unstable onto a stable system, and am not interested in upgrading at >> this point to unstable. However I might be wrong here. > > > Yes, telling everyone to upgrade to unstable is not a good answer. > > It does look to me from staring at Depends: as if snapd 2.27.6-2 from sid > will install OK on stretch. But I haven't tried it. > You can install the deb from testing on stretch, it turns out. Cheers, mwh In any case, my >> research led me to believe the first error *might* be a kernel >> issue... I believe my packages to be fine. >> >> The only response I got however was an implied "don't use snap" and "I >> personally don't like the concept of snap". which wasn't really helpful. >> > > Yes. Let's see if I can find some better answers... > > Cheers, > mwh > --089e08241fd4a4aecd055b117673 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 5= October 2017 at 09:56, Michael Hudson-Doyle <michael.hudson@c= anonical.com> wrote:


On 5 October 2017 at 09:52, Brian May <= bam@debian.org><= /span> wrote:
Michael Hudson-Doyle = <micha= el.hudson@canonical.com> writes:
> Can you elaborate? Do you have apparmor enabled? I am aware that there= are
> problems on stable currently but being explicit reduces guessing.

See the stack overflow question. The major issue was the error when<= br> trying to remove an existing container.

2017-09-09T15:08:29+10:00 ERROR cannot remove snap file "robotica"= ;, will retry in 3 mins: snap-robotica-x1.mount failed to stop: timeout
=

Ah OK. I've not seen this.

I also had problems with incorrect permissions randomly appearing, even
though I used exactly the same process every time.

Or that. Time to rebuild my stretch vm I guess (I accidental= ly upgraded it to sid...).

I've rebuilt my VM and things seem to mostly work (so long as I= leave apparmor off). Can you provide reproduction instructions for either = of your problems?
=C2=A0
> Can you try just installing the package from unstable rather than
> rebuilding it? (sometimes static linking does solve problems :-p)

I was guessing it won't be possible to install the package strai= ght from
unstable onto a stable system, and am not interested in upgrading at
this point to unstable. However I might be wrong here.
Yes, telling everyone to upgrade to unstable is not a go= od answer.

It does look to me from staring at Depe= nds: as if snapd 2.27.6-2 from sid will install OK on stretch. But I haven&= #39;t tried it.

You= can install the deb from testing on stretch, it turns out.
=C2= =A0
Cheers,
mwh

In any case, my<= br> research led me to believe the first error *might* be a kernel
issue... I believe my packages to be fine.

The only response I got however was an implied "don't use snap&quo= t; and "I
personally don't like the concept of snap". which wasn't reall= y helpful.

Yes. Let's see if= I can find some better answers...

Cheers,
mwh=C2=A0

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